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[Overnight]

The Urantia book, dude. That book is 3 times the size of the Bible, and just as silly.

Happy reading!

https://www.urantia.org/urantia-book/read-urantia-book-online

Hey, @themickey Guess how many people on this forum will read that entire book?

The answer is ZERO. I read the thing twice, and referred to it's concordance on many occasions. There is no truth, there is only ZUUL!

 

[studentofthemarkets]

I don't think you ever had a real relationship with Him

You're right and neither do you or anyone, other than we are human running on limited information.

But you can't KNOW that I don't. I know that I do.

You are going by your experience. I am going by my experiences, and the experiences of others like me, and the Bible and evidence that the Bible is trustworthy.

You do not accept that evidence, so you think that I and others like me are the same as you, not having a real relationship with God. Only the thing is, I and some others DO HAVE a real relationship with God.

 

[themickey]

But you can't KNOW that I don't. I know that I do.

You are going by your experience. I am going by my experiences, and the experiences of others like me, and the Bible and evidence that the Bible is trustworthy.

You do not accept that evidence, so you think that I and others like me are the same as you, not having a real relationship with God. Only the thing is, I and some others DO HAVE a real relationship with God.

Delusional, but you're not alone, you were taught the delusion.
Be frank and honest with yourself if it's possible, what tangibly sets you apart in the real world from the unsaved. You have this relationship with God you claim, what special powers, qualities, gifts, talents, intelligence etc has He bestowed on you that sets you apart from us bottom dwellers?
I already know the answer - none, zero, nil, nada.
All you have is belief, feeling, conviction, faith, pie in the sky bs mumbo jumbo hairy fairy nonsense floating around in your head.

 

[themickey]

The Urantia book........,

First time hearing about it, so I read up on Wiki.

 

[stu]

Stu said, "Any God who is supposed to have created everything, including EVIL, is an EVIL monster."
Stu, you are confusing God with Satan.
God has never said He created evil.
God said that Satan is the originator of lies.
God is so entirely good, that evil is completely repulsive to Him. Satan is the one who the Bible attributes evil to.

lolReally?
When cornered, you even argue against the Bible? Go against "The Word of God" itself? gosh!

John 1
3. All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.

Colossians 1
16. For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.

17. He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.




This is basic shit. Everyone knows "God created everything"

 

[studentofthemarkets]

Stu wrote: Everyone knows "God created everything"​

When God created everything He created all things as very good! The creation corrupted itself!

And God looked upon all that He had made, and indeed, it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.
Genesis 1:31
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Even Satan was created as a perfect being:

14 You were anointed as a guardian cherub, for I had ordained you. You were on the holy mountain of God; you walked among the fiery stones.
15 From the day you were created you were blameless in your ways— until wickedness was found in you.
16 By the vastness of your trade, you were filled with violence, and you sinned. So I drove you in disgrace from the mountain of God, and I banished you, O guardian cherub, from among the fiery stones.
Ezekiel 28:14-16

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[userque]

Stu wrote: Everyone knows "God created everything"​

When God created everything He created all things as very good! The creation corrupted itself!

And God looked upon all that He had made, and indeed, it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.
Genesis 1:31
​

Even Satan was created as a perfect being:

14 You were anointed as a guardian cherub, for I had ordained you. You were on the holy mountain of God; you walked among the fiery stones.
15 From the day you were created you were blameless in your ways— until wickedness was found in you.
16 By the vastness of your trade, you were filled with violence, and you sinned. So I drove you in disgrace from the mountain of God, and I banished you, O guardian cherub, from among the fiery stones.
Ezekiel 28:14-16

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IMO's:

God created beings with the free will to do good and/or evil.

If @stu disapproves, and deems God an evil monster for granting beings such free will, then that too is his God given right to exercise his own free will--in action.

Me personally, his opinion is not something I'd cast my pearls before. I'm certain he'll eventually find all the answers he seeks, and deserves.

I'll plant seeds and give a little water; but, once again, it is above our paygrade to try to soften corroded, dysfunctional, hearts.

 

[userque]

When you shut down the troll responses, you're usually left with:

 

[userque]

 

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