germany and the EU

did Germany make a mistake by joining the EU

  • No

    Votes: 7 33.3%
  • Yes

    Votes: 12 57.1%
  • not sure

    Votes: 2 9.5%

  • Total voters
    21
Quote from zdreg:

did Germany let in the albainian mafia in order to keep the supply of prostitutes flowing?

your answer may be tongue in cheek but u probably believe it.
why did Germany waste billions of dollars subsidizing greek agriculture besides being cheated by the Greeks of billions in fake subsidies

Why did Germans destroy Greece not too long ago in WWII and even run away with their gold as a loan which they never repaid?

Do you know any history at all? There are still people in Greek, Yogoslavian, even Italian villages that hear the word German and run to hide in caves from the Stukas. Save what the Jews do when they hear the word German.

Then, you do not know how the EU subsides work. No actual transfer of money took place. The EU central bank ordered local central banks to print the amount of money of the subsides. This happened AFTER these countries abolished their SOVEREIGN RIGHT to print money of their own.
 
Quote from intradaybill:

Why did Germans destroy Greece not too long ago in WWII and even run away with their gold as a loan which they never repaid?

Do you know any history at all? There are still people in Greek, Yogoslavian, even Italian villages that hear the word German and run to hide in caves from the Stukas. Save what the Jews do when they hear the word German.

Then, you do not know how the EU subsides work. No actual transfer of money took place. The EU central bank ordered local central banks to print the amount of money of the subsides. This happened AFTER these countries abolished their SOVEREIGN RIGHT to print money of their own.

everything I know i learned on ET.:D
 
Quote from Debaser82:

Don't forget only 2 generations ago Germany was the most hated country in the world and throughout large segments of the european population, especially the older ones, they are still heavily despised on up untill today.

They have made tremendous progress as far as image goes with the younger generation though and they will be very reluctant to see such a trend move back in reverse again.

They will cut themselves in the flesh to wash away the shame of their past once and for all.

Today's Germans should feel NO shame. THEY didn't do it... Just a whack-job power seeker and his groupies.... nearly all dead now.
 
Germany is doing what any reasonable country SHOULD do, suport their OWN industry, they OWN taxpaying citizenry...many people have long forgotten this in the USA and other places when the poison from one world order and globalization and its benefit (ha ha) for the general populus seeps in...now look at the USA, look at unemployment...the only thing we seem to be making is bad movies! Remember this when you criticise a country that supports its own people.
Quote from zdreg:

what benefits does germany get from subsidizing in the billions the latin members and probably also eastern european members of the EU?
 
Quote from loza:

Germany is doing what any reasonable country SHOULD do, suport their OWN industry, they OWN taxpaying citizenry...many people have long forgotten this in the USA and other places when the poison from one world order and globalization and its benefit (ha ha) for the general populus seeps in...now look at the USA, look at unemployment...the only thing we seem to be making is bad movies! Remember this when you criticise a country that supports its own people.

I am not sure what point u are making. are u in favor of Germany supporting the rest of Europe?

to make the record clear I am against Germany subsidizing the rest of Europe.

for the record i have not criticized Germany.
What is your position?
 
Is the question, "Should a strong economic power support and subsidize weaker neighbors"?

Of course, the weak are always all for it. But should the strong oblige? For what reason? Just to be well-liked? Just to be nice?

Sort of like the Obama administration's goals for the US. Should successful and hard-working Americans be raped to support layabouts... to "spread the wealth"?

All of those who would "get something for nothing" vote 'YES'. All of those who are raped of their assets and work vote "Hell NO"!

What a conundrum. Perhaps we can get Chavez and Castro to arbitrate.
 
Quote from zdreg:

I am not sure what point u are making. are u in favor of Germany supporting the rest of Europe?

to make the record clear I am against Germany subsidizing the rest of Europe.
What is your position?

The strong should never subsidize the weak except perhaps to facilitate the OPPORTUNITY for the weak to become stronger through their own effort.

The world "owes no man a living". Succeed by your own merits or perish...
 
unless you are german or EU member what is it to you? My point unless you have missed it, that germany, unlike stupid nations, is taking the long term view, for the sake of her industry and workers!! If I lived in EU (and I have an EU passport), I would be against it, unless of course my workplace and investment is in germany... duhh? Other than that I UNDERSTAND why China or germany is doing it, and why the rest of the monkeys on ET are puzzled....
Quote from zdreg:

I am not sure what point u are making. are u in favor of Germany supporting the rest of Europe?

to make the record clear I am against Germany subsidizing the rest of Europe.

for the record i have not criticized Germany.
What is your position?
 
Quote from zdreg:

what benefits does germany get from subsidizing in the billions the latin members and probably also eastern european members of the EU?
zdreg, could you briefly explain how Germany is subsidizing the latin members ?
Seriously. Because I live in a "latin member", but I can't figure out how they are doing it.

Less seriously, one of my cars is a Mercedes, so I have subsidized their car industry. How much Parmigiano Reggiano and red wine should germans buy to compensate for my Mercedes ? :D
 
Quote from C6H12O6:

zdreg, could you briefly explain how Germany is subsidizing the latin members ?
Seriously. Because I live in a "latin member", but I can't figure out how they are doing it.

Less seriously, one of my cars is a Mercedes, so I have subsidized their car industry. How much Parmigiano Reggiano and red wine should germans buy to compensate for my Mercedes ? :D

You put him to think and this is not good for a German. They just take orders.
 
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