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If anything there is more evidence for God than there is for no God. In fact the world is covered in evidence for God. Life and its complexity and design proves that there is a God. I mean, unless you are trying to tell me that randomness has the intelligence to create something like an eye, or a brain. Where did it learn that? Oh wait..randomness isnt a living thinking being...it cant learn, it has no consciousness to discern between knowing if something is advantageous or not advantageous when random particles group up together to form complex lifeforms.

Building on this idea, I guess the scientists could mathematically PROVE the existence of God. I mean what are the probabilities of creation and life happening to any degree of certainty through mixing sunlight, carbon and what ever other 'essential' elements we have decided life is dependant upon? Even if they were to calculate such a figure, surely that figure itself would be so minute that it would in it's own way prove Gods existence.

Science still has no answer for what started/ignited big bang.
Scientists still have no understanding on how life was 'ignited'
Scientists still have no proof of evolution, and there is still that missing link between man and apes. It's still a theory.

On the issue of dinosaurs, maybe there is an explanation? The bible does say that creatures - livestock, birds etc were created before man, and we were given dominion over them. However, the tripping point for me is the whole 6 days of world creation thing. But perhaps 'a day' isnt supposed to be taken as literally as 24 hours? Perhaps it just refers to a unit of time? Im not a philosopher.
 
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Building on this idea, I guess the scientists could mathematically PROVE the existence of God. I mean what are the probabilities of creation and life happening to any degree of certainty through mixing sunlight, carbon and what ever other 'essential' elements we have decided life is dependant upon? Even if they were to calculate such a figure, surely that figure itself would be so minute that it would in it's own way prove Gods existence.

Science still has no answer for what started/ignited big bang.
Scientists still have no understanding on how life was 'ignited'
Scientists still have no proof of evolution, and there is still that missing link between man and apes. It's still a theory.

On the issue of dinosaurs, maybe there is an explanation? The bible does say that creatures - livestock, birds etc were created before man, and we were given dominion over them. However, the tripping point for me is the whole 6 days of world creation thing. But perhaps 'a day' isnt supposed to be taken as literally as 24 hours? Perhaps it just refers to a unit of time? Im not a philosopher.

the probabilities of creation and life happening to any degree of certainty through mixing sunlight, carbon and what ever other 'essential' elements we have decided life is dependant upon.....

....are altogether demonstrably probable......


So what are the probabilities of creation and life happening from an indefinite, contradictory, irrational, imaginary, delusional superstition called God ?
 
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Science still has no answer for what started/ignited big bang.
Scientists still have no understanding on how life was 'ignited'
Scientists still have no proof of evolution, and there is still that missing link between man and apes. It's still a theory.


Scientists are not even close to understanding any of those theories. They come up with all sorts of crazy dark matter stories, unproven speculative theories on other universes and crazy things like that...but mention God and they are 100% sure that he didnt create the universe.

Child: How did life begin?

Scientist: I have no idea whatsoever....but I know God didnt do it!

wtf?
 
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Scientists are not even close to understanding any of those theories. They come up with all sorts of crazy dark matter stories, unproven speculative theories on other universes and crazy things like that...but mention God and they are 100% sure that he didnt create the universe.

Child: How did life begin?

Scientist: I have no idea whatsoever....but I know God didnt do it!

wtf?

God did it ofcourse, it has been obvious since centuries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation_myth
 
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Scientists are not even close to understanding any of those theories. They come up with all sorts of crazy dark matter stories, unproven speculative theories on other universes and crazy things like that...but mention God and they are 100% sure that he didnt create the universe.

Child: How did life begin?

Scientist: I have no idea whatsoever....but I know God didnt do it!

wtf?

yeah, exactly wtf are you talking about ...

If the universe needs a God to create it, a God needs one too .

Even a child knows that.
 
Quote from peilthetraveler:

Yes I believe everything in the bible and not because someone told me to. When I was a little boy I used to believe because I was told to. As I got older and started thinking for myself, I admit that I didnt believe everything in the bible because OTHER people were telling me what to believe. (why do you believe in evolution? Because someone told you to? Or because someone told you they have evidence even though you never checked to see if that evidence was correct?)

Anyway, I thought there was a lot of questions that could not be answered in the bible because I was getting conflicting information from secular society telling me to think their way. At one point I thought the bible didnt have a leg to stand on with some of secular societies arguments. A few years ago though, I met a guy who was having an argument with a woman about everything from dinosaurs to moses parting the red sea. This man answered every question perfectly and I had no idea that the bible had answers to every secular question. I started to study the bible and the rest is history.

As for not believing that God inspired man to write the texts that are now collectively known as the bible, well I believe he did inspire man to write it. Once you start to study the bible and pray for wisdom in understanding it, you see some of the "hidden" things that the non-believers dont see whether by their own choice or just not being able to as they have to let go of their secular conflicting beliefs to see it.

You tell me that I was born with a brain to question things, but have you ever once in your life EVER questioned a scientific finding or did you just believe it because they said so or told you that they had "proof" somewhere. For instance they tell you that dinosaurs lived millions of years ago...if you ask for proof, they say the magic word "carbon dating" Then 99% of you say "oh, ok" but you never question how accurate carbon dating is over millions of years or even how it works..you just "take their word for it" Evolution is a faith just like religion.

If anything there is more evidence for God than there is for no God. In fact the world is covered in evidence for God. Life and its complexity and design proves that there is a God. I mean, unless you are trying to tell me that randomness has the intelligence to create something like an eye, or a brain. Where did it learn that? Oh wait..randomness isnt a living thinking being...it cant learn, it has no consciousness to discern between knowing if something is advantageous or not advantageous when random particles group up together to form complex lifeforms.

You are so incredibly ignorant it is astounding.

By the way, an eye wasn't created by randomness. It's called natural selection.
 
olias, you should know that peilthetraveler actually admitted a few years ago that at one point in his life, he thought that he might be gay. I don't have the link at the moment but I'll try to find it. A lot of people like peilthetraveler who pretend to be very anti-gay are men who actually have had some homosexual thoughts themselves, but because of early brainwashing, they came to believe that those thoughts were 'evil'. They can't handle the thoughts they're having so they lash out. peil is also a religious extremist so we know he was brainwashed as a young man.
 
Quote from StreamlineTrade:

Building on this idea, I guess the scientists could mathematically PROVE the existence of God. I mean what are the probabilities of creation and life happening to any degree of certainty through mixing sunlight, carbon and what ever other 'essential' elements we have decided life is dependant upon? Even if they were to calculate such a figure, surely that figure itself would be so minute that it would in it's own way prove Gods existence.

Science still has no answer for what started/ignited big bang.
Scientists still have no understanding on how life was 'ignited'
Scientists still have no proof of evolution, and there is still that missing link between man and apes. It's still a theory.

On the issue of dinosaurs, maybe there is an explanation? The bible does say that creatures - livestock, birds etc were created before man, and we were given dominion over them. However, the tripping point for me is the whole 6 days of world creation thing. But perhaps 'a day' isnt supposed to be taken as literally as 24 hours? Perhaps it just refers to a unit of time? Im not a philosopher.

Religion takes any gap in scientific knowledge and says "See! Since science can't explain (insert gap in scientific knowledge here), it must be because it was god!"

But the gap is only temporary, and will one day be closed.
 
Quote from stu:

yeah, exactly wtf are you talking about ...

If the universe needs a God to create it, a God needs one too .

Even a child knows that.

+1

Who created god?
 
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