Quote from peilthetraveler:
No, I'm not homo,nor bi-sexual. I just understand the human mind. Do you believe pedophiles are born that way? Or do they first entertain the thought of sex with kids? What about people that have sex with animals? Are they born that way too?
No, people doesn't become pedophile by entertaining the thought of sex with kids. The reasons for pedophilia is much more complex. It has to do, I think, with a complete lack of development of sexuality all together. I believe this is why there's a disproportionate amount of pedophile catholic priests; they develop some natural foundation for sex at a very young age, until they reach an age in which they're able to completely suppress any sexual thoughts. When they get older, at some point in life they get overwhelmed by this undeveloped urge for sex, and as the only sexual foundation they have is that of a 9 year old boy, the victims are typically boys of that age.
This is fundamentally different from homosexuality; the problem with pedophiles is not in what thoughts they are entertaining, but rather the suppression of sexual thoughts during the most crucial years of sexual development. Homosexuals develop their sexuality as straight people do, they simply have a different starting point.
The mind is a powerful thing. You can program to think any way you want with enough thought.
Your Freudian theories about homosexuality are outdated and completely useless today. The Royal College of Psychiatrists stated in 2007 that:
"Despite almost a century of psychoanalytic and psychological speculation, there is no substantive evidence to support the suggestion that the nature of parenting or early childhood experiences play any role in the formation of a personâs fundamental heterosexual or homosexual orientation. It would appear that sexual orientation is biological in nature, determined by a complex interplay of genetic factors and the early uterine environment. Sexual orientation is therefore not a choice."
http://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/pdf/Submission to the Church of England.pdf
You can litterally make yourself fall in love with anyone in the world if you think about them positively long enough. This logic works with everything including sex.
Positive and negative association is very powerful, but it's not all-powerful as you claim, it only works to some degree. You might be able to suppress erotic thoughts about men for most of the time, and if you're bisexual, you'll probably get through life just fine. However, if you're homosexual, you have to convince yourself that females makes you happy and titties are hot. You might even be able to get it up once in a while by learning to be comfortable around your wife (people do get it up when they're alone), but the fact of the matter remains; you'll have a lot of problems getting it up when its time for that special birthday gift from the wife. When that happens, you'll most probably convince yourself that such problems are normal for your age and it can happen to anybody. Well it's not normal, and it's no way to live your life.
If you focus on some dudes ass and how good you might feel if you tried it...you will turn gay with enough thought. Its just how the mind works.
It's not that simple. First of all, how do you explain homosexuality amongst animals with this theory? Does the animals entertain the wrong thoughts? It doesn't make any sense.
And Second, straight guys doesn't choose to entertain thoughts about the female body, a deep interest for it is just always there. It is this interest that directs the thoughts we entertain, not the other way around. For straight guys, male bodies are simply uninteresting. They're not necessarily disgusting or hideous, they're just sexually utterly boring. Same goes for gay men with respect to female bodies. For bisexuals however, I can see your point; if you have urges for both sexes, you can simply choose which to entertain.
As for people who love trees and animals and such, they're such a small percentage of the population that they're probably brain damaged in one way or another.
I've read books and taken seminars on the subject. Probably spent at least a few hundred hours trying to figure out how the mind works and anyone else who has studied it will tell you the same thing. What you focus on, is what occupies your mind. If you think positive thoughts about it, you will love it. If you think negative thoughts about it, you will hate it.
You think that because your basing your conclusions on the way your own mind works, and apparently you can love men if you want to, which makes you bisexual at the very least. I come from a liberal part of the world where gays are very much accepted. Some guys here try to be gay because they think it's trendy and cool. They're feminine, love fashion, watch sex and the city and some wear makeup. Some even force themselves to have gay sex. But when it comes right down to it, they fail at being gay, and they settle with a girl, calling themselves bisexual rather than gay. Because it's not in their nature.
Same goes for good Christian men who happen to be gays; they struggle like crazy throughout their lives trying to be heterosexual, they suppress these urges and they marry females, only to end up like so many republican politicians (Mark Foley, Ted Haggard, Larry Craig and Bob Allen) have done. Pretending your heterosexual when your homosexual by nature, is not good, no matter how well you think you can handle it. Now if your bisexual (which you seem to be), you'll most likely have no problems, but if your a suppressed homosexual, it'll probably blow up on your family some day.
As for the bible condemning homosexuality, God clearly speaks to the common man - of homosexual acts conducted by heterosexual men. Gods message is that if your heterosexual, you shouldn't have sex with other men, like the Romans and Greeks used to (specially the soldiers of the time), and like a lot of people do in prisons today. That is a sin because it's unhealthy. There's nothing in the bible implying that God ever mentioned people who are homosexuals by nature at all.
