Thx for the response, maybe ill give it a try since it seems to fit my lifestyle more anyways. Ive always been the kind of guy who wakes up in the morning and goes all day without eating then when the closing bell hits i pig out on one massive meal.
It seems like every other day we are learning that the old style of doing things is either harmful, or doesnt work, or that something we thought was harmful really isnt that bad, like fats, and salts. Seems like just as it is in trading, your success is directly proportional to the amount of time you spend studying and keeping up to all this.
Ive always had to battle super hard with my weight but people, and diet books were always telling me that this was the problem, i dont eat enough different meals per day.
I always lost weight when i went to the 6 meals per day, but then again I was always hyper focused, so its hard to discern whether 6 meals worked, or it was just cause i was paying close attention at those times, when i had to go into that mode to shed 40 pounds in a few months,
As much as anything i would limit my calories severely during these periods, as well as trying to excercise.
Winter is a big problem for me when im living in Canada cause i dont spend enough time here to justify being in a hockey league or doing any winter sports, and it just sucks going outside to try to go for a walk or jog when its - 20 degrees celsius, so i find it hard finding fun things to do in the winter that burn calories.
In the summer time i do all kinds of out door activities but specifically walk the golf course for 18 holes three to 4 times per week.
Im curious about the line of thought you have where you said "Cavemen didnt eat this way" I often times see people comparing our diets to cavemen, but its really hard to overcome the one glaring difference between cavemen and what we do today...... Cavemen also had to go out and hunt, and do all this physical labour we no longer need to do, I mean even in more recent times, you look at all these farmers in the 1900's and none of them were fat, because they had to work their ass off on the farm, so alot of them could eat whatever they want. Look at Michael Phelps i read an article on him, he used to eat 12000 calories a day when he was training, its hard to even fathom putting that much food in your system in a day.
So its hard for a guy like me to know whether your spectacular results (congrats btw) come from your spectacular process, (i.e. working out all the time, plus you were skinny before,) or if any of these things actually make a difference, for me as a guy who doesnt spend any time in the gym, ive beat my head against the wall trying everything, and found the only thing that works is going hungry alot of the time, and avoiding breads, and in the end it just comes down to calories in/calories out, the old school weight loss method.
I wish we had more conclusive evidence on all these things.
It seems like every other day we are learning that the old style of doing things is either harmful, or doesnt work, or that something we thought was harmful really isnt that bad, like fats, and salts. Seems like just as it is in trading, your success is directly proportional to the amount of time you spend studying and keeping up to all this.
Ive always had to battle super hard with my weight but people, and diet books were always telling me that this was the problem, i dont eat enough different meals per day.
I always lost weight when i went to the 6 meals per day, but then again I was always hyper focused, so its hard to discern whether 6 meals worked, or it was just cause i was paying close attention at those times, when i had to go into that mode to shed 40 pounds in a few months,
As much as anything i would limit my calories severely during these periods, as well as trying to excercise.
Winter is a big problem for me when im living in Canada cause i dont spend enough time here to justify being in a hockey league or doing any winter sports, and it just sucks going outside to try to go for a walk or jog when its - 20 degrees celsius, so i find it hard finding fun things to do in the winter that burn calories.
In the summer time i do all kinds of out door activities but specifically walk the golf course for 18 holes three to 4 times per week.
Im curious about the line of thought you have where you said "Cavemen didnt eat this way" I often times see people comparing our diets to cavemen, but its really hard to overcome the one glaring difference between cavemen and what we do today...... Cavemen also had to go out and hunt, and do all this physical labour we no longer need to do, I mean even in more recent times, you look at all these farmers in the 1900's and none of them were fat, because they had to work their ass off on the farm, so alot of them could eat whatever they want. Look at Michael Phelps i read an article on him, he used to eat 12000 calories a day when he was training, its hard to even fathom putting that much food in your system in a day.
So its hard for a guy like me to know whether your spectacular results (congrats btw) come from your spectacular process, (i.e. working out all the time, plus you were skinny before,) or if any of these things actually make a difference, for me as a guy who doesnt spend any time in the gym, ive beat my head against the wall trying everything, and found the only thing that works is going hungry alot of the time, and avoiding breads, and in the end it just comes down to calories in/calories out, the old school weight loss method.
I wish we had more conclusive evidence on all these things.
Yes, the general wisdom is to eat 6 small meals per day to "keep your metabolism going". Although technically true, it implies that your metabolism somehow stops or slows down otherwise, which is bullshit. Here's all you need to know: Your metabolism ramps up in direct proportion to the size of meal you eat. So if you eat 3000 calories split up into six 500-calorie meals, your metabolism graph will have six small spikes with each spike correlating to the metabolism increase from each meal. But when you take that same amount of daily calories and split it into two meals of 1500 calories each, then your metabolism graph would have two massive spikes, with each spike followed by a long trail of decline. And those two spikes will be much higher than the little baby spikes caused by eating each of the six small meals. You've likely felt that increased body temperature in real life after eating a high calorie meal like bbq or a lot of pizza. You literally start sweating like you just ran around the block wide open even though you haven't moved from the dinner table. That's your metabolism in high gear trying to burn the crazy amount of calories you've ingested.
No matter what, the net thermogenic effect of the food you eat is proportional to your overall calorie intake, not how those calories are split up throughout the day. That doesn't mean you can't eat 6 small meals per day. You certainly can, but most people will tell you it's a total pain in the ass to do consistently. Intermittent fasting allows you to eat real meals at normal times and still lose weight because you're going without food for an extended period of time afterwards.
I would also like to mention that intermittent fasting is also in line with our evolutionary process as humans. I can assure you that our ancestors from thousands of years ago weren't carrying coolers containing 6 small meals every day. They ate, eventually got hungry again, and then hunted for food and basically ate huge when they had food available to eat. And last I checked, I haven't seen too many obese cave men.
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) I am 6 ft and weighed 230 at my heaviest-- I have a new baby daughter so it motivates me to get into shape--its bad enough having an old dad, but a fat old dad is the WORST!
That's why this diet would be much easier during my last 8 hours of wake time. Only problem I see is that I would then be consuming a large part of my diet prior to going to bed (which is counter to my old way of thinking), but might be OK if I do most of the carbs and fat early in the window and just drink a post workout protein and just enough carb (glucose maybe for my post workout insulin spike). What do you think?