Futures is up, is collapse over?

Quote from Brandonf:

Why does anyone care about rate cuts? The Fed started cutting rates towards the end of the summer and the market is lower than when they started because many people feel that the rate cuts are a part of the problem, not the solution.

time is the only solution... the market prognosticators... are under the influence that about a year from the initial cut, the stimulative effects will be seen in the economy...

remember the government can tailor any situation they desire in key reports.
 
The PUMP up of overnight futures are bears using a illiquid market to lift price to suck in the BULLS.

Watch out..FRIDAY...
 
Quote from Spectre2007:

time is the only solution... the market prognosticators... are under the influence that about a year from the initial cut, the stimulative effects will be seen in the economy...

remember the government can tailor any situation they desire in key reports.

When is your video ready? You keep talking about it?
 
Quote from volente_00:

That would be the ultimate FU to shorts and put holders if they did wait til around 3 to surpise cut right before OE close.
Is it possible they would surprise cut during market hours? Or can we assume that if they don't cut by 9:30, then they aren't cutting?
 
Quote from lindq:

Actually, I'd love to see a strong open to set up shorts, then a rollover to a panic bottom. Then a bounce to a stronger close.

Now, that's trading, baby!:D

Could happen. Rate cut before open, shorts hammer rally, Bush announces aggressive plan in P.M. , high close.

Not that there must be anything substantial to justify maket action other than short/long ratio.
 
It would really be sad if Bernanke whored himself again to Wall St. and cut on Friday. Might as well have PPT tattooed on his forehead.

Now with the stimulus package, $800 per individual? Are they nuts? With massive budget deficits, where is this money coming from? Money heaven?
 
No rate cut.
Combination of mindless panic and margin calls and another 300+
point down close.

Fed is stupid
Govt. dissinterested.
Wife still nags
 
Quote from interdigital:

Is it possible they would surprise cut during market hours? Or can we assume that if they don't cut by 9:30, then they aren't cutting?

Before the open they could announce that Bernanke will make a statement at some time after the open.
 
Quote from Alex_in_Oz:

No rate cut.
Combination of mindless panic and margin calls and another 300+
point down close.

Fed is stupid
Govt. dissinterested.
Wife still nags

1,2, & 5 maybe.. but no to 3 and 4.
 
Quote from austinp:

On a short-term basis, the market is setting up for a monster rally event. If it ignites intraday, don't be surprised if they ramp +50pts ES (or more) in violent fashion. Late July 2002 was a 70ish point intraday ramp from low to high. We'll probably see at least one of those this year as big or bigger.

But, many of the coming rallies will be completely reversed the next session or two at most... especially a surprise rate-cut event. See Jan 2001 and April 2001 for the results each time.

Some rallies this year will stick for weeks, maybe longer. Expect everyone waiting with baited breath to proclaim a bottom is in, bear market is dead, etc.

We can also expect lower lows, grinding selloffs and overall sector deterioration. Stock markets have suffered a triple heart attack and paralyzing stroke here in the first two weeks of 2008. Anyone who thinks they'll be ready for spring-training wind sprints anytime soon is deluded, to be kind.

Welcome to the early stages of a true bear market. Make the necessary adjustments to what you saw today and sessions prior. We'll be served a steady diet of them.

Enjoy the bear-market rallies when they ignite. It is something to behold, while they last. Review your charts from April 2000 ~ Oct 2002 for a refresher course = road map of overall general behavior to come.

There is a multi-year bottom out there ahead, somewhere below today's session low. Probably much further below than most active traders = investors can possibly fathom.

Time will tell... it always does


Nothing will make you happy? Rate cuts, economic stimulus? At least consider our Government gives a damn! They are stepping in and steering you in the right direction.

If you were in Sudan or Sri Lanka you would be eating with bullocks face down from earth..
 
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