French schools ban the use of mummy and daddy

This amendment hasn't passed the French Senate yet. Whether it does or not should not be considered a big deal. What is a big deal is that French schools are great schools. Every kid should be so lucky as to get to go to school in France! I have close friends whose son attends a school in the U.S. whose curriculum is approved by the French Ministry of Education, and it is a Wonderful School!
 
Every kid should be so lucky as to get to go to school in France!

Typical lefty academic view that the goal of American schools should be to turn Americans into the French.

Apparently you want a country where all the men look like Beto and Macron and sit down when they pee. We know they would have your vote.

Good to see that with the yellow vests out in the streets trying to get their country to focus on something other than the social experiments of the Paris elite, that the elite are looking at this number 1/number2 parent horseshit. I am sure that is a big issue with the yellow vests.
 
This amendment hasn't passed the French Senate yet. Whether it does or not should not be considered a big deal. What is a big deal is that French schools are great schools. Every kid should be so lucky as to get to go to school in France! I have close friends whose son attends a school in the U.S. whose curriculum is approved by the French Ministry of Education, and it is a Wonderful School!

France ranks BELOW the U.S. in EVERY Education Ranking

Let's start with OECD Reading and Math

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The comprehensive 40 top Education Systems in the World. U.S. is 14th. France is 23rd

The full list of the top 40 educational systems in the world:
  1. South Korea
  2. Japan
  3. Singapore
  4. Hong Kong
  5. Finland
  6. The United Kingdom
  7. Canada
  8. The Netherlands
  9. Ireland
  10. Poland
  11. Denmark
  12. Germany
  13. Russia
  14. The United States
  15. Australia
  16. New Zealand
  17. Israel
  18. Belgium
  19. Czech Republic
  20. Switzerland
  21. Norway
  22. Hungary
  23. France
  24. Sweden
  25. Italy
  26. Austria
  27. Slovenia
  28. Portugal
  29. Spain
  30. Bulgaria
  31. Romania
  32. Chile
  33. Greece
  34. Turkey
  35. Thailand
  36. Columbia
  37. Argentina
  38. Brazil
  39. Mexico
  40. Indonesia
https://www.master-and-more.eu/en/top-40-education-systems-in-the-world/
 
14th in the world competing against those homogeneous societies at the top.

I think our schools must be doing great... considering how much of a burden we are putting on schools. For instance 1 in 8 children in our CA school system parents are illegals. https://edsource.org/2017/1-in-8-children-in-california-schools-have-an-undocumented-parent/580621

I read it closer to 20 percent in other studies.

This is not to put down intelligence... but if your parents did not finish school and you don't speak english at home... and you have to worry about whether parents are going to be able to stay in the country learning and doing well on tests is going to be tough.

If you want better stats... one of the easy fixes is obvious.
Its so wrong to me that lefties put down our systems - they and the establishment republicans policy of unfettered immigration causes a big part of the issues our society has when you look at stats. We don't have to spend more... we need to let our citizens and our institutions catch up with a pause on immigration.

By the way similarly republicans are annoying when the blame democrats for the budget. That gripe is not legitimate anymore.
 
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France ranks BELOW the U.S. in EVERY Education Ranking
Not exactly. Check your chart again. However I don't believe there is much, if any, significant difference between any of these mid rank countries in these particular achievement scores. Certainly no significant difference between the U.S. and France. In this particular set of measurements, France ranks insignificantly below the U.S. in Reading and Science achievement and slightly above the U.S. in Math achievement. My comments are in reference to other aspects of the curriculum and general approach to public education than what is being measured here.

The scores for PISA evaluations of educational achievement are adjusted so that the average score is 500 and the standard deviation is +-100. 5 points or less I consider to be insignificant. Between 5 and 10 points as barely significant.
 
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Not exactly. Check your chart again. However I don't believe there is any significant difference between any of these mid rank countries in these particular achievement scores. Certainly no significant difference between the U.S. and France. In this particular set of measurements, France ranks insignificantly below the U.S. in Reading and Science achievement and slightly above the U.S. in Math achievement. My comments are in reference to other aspects of the curriculum than what is being measured here.

I have never heard any parent in France who sends their kid to public school say "Every kid should be so lucky as to get to go to school in France!" BTW - I worked in France in the early 90s.

I have met parents (mainly expatriates) who are very happy with the private schools their children went to in France (e.g. the "American school of Paris") -- but these schools are a very different experience than the French public schools.
 
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Apparently you want a country where all the men look like Beto and Macron and sit down when they pee. We know they would have your vote.
To be specific, I would think the U.S. should strive to achieve a level of education at which the number of citizens that reason as you seem to is minimized. I realize that a zero level of your particular kind of ignorance is unachievable, but certainly minimizing such an intellectual deficit among the population is worthy of a concerted effort.
 
To be specific, I would think the U.S. should strive to achieve a level of education at which the number of citizens that reason as you seem to is minimized. I realize that a zero level of your particular kind of ignorance is unachievable, but certainly minimizing such an intellectual deficit among the population is worthy of a concerted effort.

Keep bringing in people from central america and we will continue to achieve the national educational level to which you aspire.

And please, before the idiot brigade here rises to present the old tripe about immigrants being better educated than the current population, make sure that the data distinguishes between legal and illegal immigrants. We know your tricks.
 
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