Freezing January for Easterners Was Not Felt Round the World

futurecurrents · Feb 23, 2014

stu said:
If you were considering what might be the truth you wouldn't still be trolling Salby around.
Looking at charts and info Salby presents is exactly NOT looking at the science. At least try to be logical when you donât know wtf youâre talking about.

Salby has not yet provided any data published or unpublished to support the ideas he presents. That will be because the ideas he presents don't stand up to basic scientific scrutiny.

On the other hand, the data and science that shows the steady rise in temperature due to atmospheric CO2 as anthropogenic , overwhelmingly does.

BINGO !!!!

We should just copy this and paste it whenever jem starts up with his Salby bullshit.

Everyone knows rising CO2 levels cause rising temperatures. It's basic bedrock climate science. jem may as well be trying to say that the earth is actually flat. It's absurd.

jem · Feb 23, 2014

the bottom line is that you have no science showing man made co2 is causing warming or that man is even responsible for the accumulation of co2.
especially when the data shows co2 following change in ocean temps.

read this again you troll... fc...

that is the data that is the core data for the agw nutter researchers too.
this is the data... and the science... click on the link... look at the graphs... learn something. stop being and ignorant drone.

jem said:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0921818112001658

Abstract
Using data series on atmospheric carbon dioxide and global temperatures we investigate the phase relation (leads/lags) between these for the period January 1980 to December 2011. Ice cores show atmospheric CO2 variations to lag behind atmospheric temperature changes on a century to millennium scale, but modern temperature is expected to lag changes in atmospheric CO2, as the atmospheric temperature increase since about 1975 generally is assumed to be caused by the modern increase in CO2. In our analysis we use eight well-known datasets: 1) globally averaged well-mixed marine boundary layer CO2 data, 2) HadCRUT3 surface air temperature data, 3) GISS surface air temperature data, 4) NCDC surface air temperature data, 5) HadSST2 sea surface data, 6) UAH lower troposphere temperature data series, 7) CDIAC data on release of anthropogene CO2, and 8) GWP data on volcanic eruptions. Annual cycles are present in all datasets except 7) and 8), and to remove the influence of these we analyze 12-month averaged data. We find a high degree of co-variation between all data series except 7) and 8), but with changes in CO2 always lagging changes in temperature. The maximum positive correlation between CO2 and temperature is found for CO2 lagging 11â12 months in relation to global sea surface temperature, 9.5â10 months to global surface air temperature, and about 9 months to global lower troposphere temperature. The correlation between changes in ocean temperatures and atmospheric CO2 is high, but do not explain all observed changes.

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see that co2 always lags temperatue.

note you can find the paper for fee on the internet....

jem · Feb 23, 2014

its tweedle dee talking to tweedle dum again... or is it vice versa. its funny how you also see to summon stu to come in for a little hit an run when you are getting overwhelmed by logic and science.

futurecurrents said:
BINGO !!!!

We should just copy this and paste it whenever jem starts up with his Salby bullshit.

Everyone knows rising CO2 levels cause rising temperatures. It's basic bedrock climate science. jem may as well be trying to say that the earth is actually flat. It's absurd.

gwb-trading · Feb 23, 2014

jem said:
its tweedle dee talking to tweedle dum again... or is it vice versa. its funny how you also see to summon stu to come in for a little hit an run when you are getting overwhelmed by logic and science.

Ranting Retarded Parrots like FC don't handle logic and science very well.

LEAPup · Feb 24, 2014

gwb-trading said:
Ranting Retarded Parrots like FC don't handle logic and science very well.

I've come to the conclusion that our resident faggot-troll hates his life, and absolutely hates the fact that he's got to install MORE heaters while people curse his faggot ass out for daring saying anything about global warming as they shiver, and simply want their heater fixed. Again, this shit can't be made up. Hollywood could only DREAM of shit like this.

futurecurrents · Feb 24, 2014

LEAPup said:
I've come to the conclusion that our resident faggot-troll hates his life, and absolutely hates the fact that he's got to install MORE heaters while people curse his faggot ass out for daring saying anything about global warming as they shiver, and simply want their heater fixed. Again, this shit can't be made up. Hollywood could only DREAM of shit like this.

What's funny is that you do not even know what an amusing caricature you are. You're a one man comedy show. Almost every post you make has me wondering if you're for real or not. The shear stupidity alone is remarkable.

LEAPup · Feb 24, 2014

futurecurrents said:
What's funny is that you do not even know what an amusing caricature you are. You're a one man comedy show. Almost every post you make has me wondering if you're for real or not. The shear stupidity alone is remarkable.

In the words of Gunny Ermey (who LITERALLY made up the "script" as he went), "do you suck dicks? Are you a Peter puffer?" Sickly, you do that. And happily, you would have DIED on MY island for that as well as your complete, and total lack of integrity. I'm not for "the draft," but would TEE TOTALLY LOVE to see what would have happened to you at MCRDPI if you were drafted like my Dad was back when...

futurecurrents · Feb 24, 2014

LEAPup said:
In the words of Gunny Ermey (who LITERALLY made up the "script" as he went), "do you suck dicks? Are you a Peter puffer?" Sickly, you do that. And happily, you would have DIED on MY island for that as well as your complete, and total lack of integrity. I'm not for "the draft," but would TEE TOTALLY LOVE to see what would have happened to you at MCRDPI if you were drafted like my Dad was back when...

LEAPup · Feb 24, 2014

Keep sucking dicks, and bending over for another Man fc, plus installing heaters. You deserve what you get... While I pay YOUR gubment for making $423,000.00 in 2013, you make a whopping $40,000.00 installing heaters, sucking dicks, and living miserably as you do...

Sad part is, I could have made more $, but I'll take what God gave me...

stu · Feb 24, 2014

jem said:
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see that co2 always lags temperatue.

All Salby has done is to claim AGW is wrong by claiming his ideas are right. Most of the data he uses is not attributed nor stands the scrutiny AGW does. That'll be why he won't publish.

So what exactly is the problem?

Are you trying to suggest if co2 lags a temperature rise, co2 can't have anything to do with a temperature rise. Really??
So presumably you must think because hens lag eggs, hens can't have anything to do with eggs either!

Well obviously you haven't , or rather won't even educate yourself in the basic science behind the greenhouse effect. Probably you get extremely confused about eggs too.

All the denier lag claim actually manages is to suggest the first bout of warming on Earth needn't have been affected by co2, but induced by a different natural cause. That doesn't stop every other warming event being caused and or amplified by co2, and more recently by excessive amounts of anthropic co2. Or in other words temperature increase by exactly how and why the greenhouse effect works.

But then that's the same approach creationists, birthers and general all round conspiracists use all the time. Front run ignorance into a topic to try and suggest what is really happening sound like it couldn't.