It doesn't matter to me what kind of illogical IF-THEN scenarios you considered, before you CONCLUDED that i had lied about C. Page being part of Trump's campaign. You said i lied. You didn't say "I've concluded, based on my own illogical IF-THEN scenarios, that Good1 lied".
Fox Lies: Obama Text from FBI Agent Hyped by Fox News Was Not About Clinton Probe WSJ reports
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It doesn't matter to me what kind of illogical IF-THEN scenarios you considered, before you CONCLUDED that i had lied about C. Page being part of Trump's campaign. You said i lied. You didn't say "I've concluded, based on my own illogical IF-THEN scenarios, that Good1 lied".
Yes, if Breitbart quotes the WSJ article and doesn't change the facts then it is factual.
Breitbart regularly used the NYT to report on Clinton's email investigation in case you didn't know. Very few sources on your side have credibility, try not to knock down the last remaining one.
I am not trying to pretend anything about Fox News or WSJ.
I am sick of YOU posting crap/subjective liberal spin as facts or proof. You are the fake news.
How doesn't it matter because the very use of a IF-THEN statement would mean that it wasn't a conclusion. Just because you lack basic logical skills doesn't give you the right to blame me for your deficiencies. You did the same on a previous thread
A proposition is based on the premise being true, if the premise is incorrect then rest of the argument have no meaning.
You are blaming me for your pathetic logical skills and then stretching it further to call me a liar when you can't even process a simple logical statement.
Secondly, you lied because you said the FBI/Obama were spying on Trump
That's a blatant lie.
There is no evidence of any such thing happening.
If I am wrong, prove it by providing sources that show there was 'spying on Trump' or even his campaign.
You can't, therefore you lied. <--------- This is how you do logic
Can you please stop posting subjective opinion and liberal propaganda as facts?So if you’ve been plugged into the news today, you may have seen the news of more Peter Strzok–Lisa Page texts being released. The text getting the most attention is the one reading, “potus wants to know everything we’re doing,” referring to then-President Barack Obama.
Fox News’ report this morning noted, “According to a newly released Senate report, this text raises questions about Obama’s personal involvement in the Clinton email investigation.”
This is the text exchange in question:
The Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee and Chairman Ron Johnson released all the texts along with the committee’s report this morning, which had this to say about that particular exchange:
On September 2, 2016, Page wrote about preparing talking points for [FBI] Director [James] Comey because “potus wants to know everything we’re doing.” This text raises additional questions about the type and extent of President Obama’s personal involvement in the [Hillary] Clinton email scandal and the FBI investigation of it.
There is a footnote to this part that says “The Justice Department notified the Committee that it had redacted other text messages that were personal in nature or relating to other investigations. See Jan. 19th Boyd letter, supra note 5. Presumably, because this message was not redacted, the Department believes it may relate to the FBI’s investigation of classified information on Secretary Clinton’s private server.”
Naturally, there was a lot of coverage of this particular text today on Fox. Congressman Louis Gohmert concluded on Fox & Friends “it means the President wants to know what they’re doing to try to stop Trump.” Brian Kilmeade said the messages raise questions about what Obama knew about the Clinton investigation.
Earlier tonight on The Five, as they led with this report, Dana Perinocautioned, “It could look terrible or it could be he has seeking a briefing about the Russian involvement and meddling in the election. From these text messages, we don’t know that.”
That came shortly after Kimberly Guilfoyle reiterated the same point about how it raises questions about what Obama knew in the Clinton investigation and when:
Well, per The Wall Street Journal:
Text messages from 2016 show preparation to brief Barack Obama about Russia’s interference in that year’s election, according to associates of the FBI employees involved in the exchange, not, as a Republican senator suggested, meddling by the then-president in the federal Hillary Clinton email investigation…
[A]ssociates of Mr. Strzok and Ms. Page said that exchange referred to the president’s wanting information on Russia election meddling, which the FBI was heavily involved in over that period. That exchange occurred just days before Mr. Obama met Russian President Vladimir Putin at a summit in China. Mr. Obama said in December 2016 that he had addressed the issue of tampering with the election process with Mr. Putin at that September meeting.
Senator Johnson recently came under fire after hyping that “secret society” text after it came out and pretty much everyone recognized it as sarcasm.
https://www.mediaite.com/online/oba...-news-reportedly-was-not-about-clinton-probe/
So you are upset that I busted a fake right wing talking point using facts, use of calendars and reporting by the WSJ?
Where is your outrage over the fake news itself? That's OK because you agree with it?
You made a statement in the subject of thread. I am simply asking you to provide proof of your allegation.So if you’ve been plugged into the news today, you may have seen the news of more Peter Strzok–Lisa Page texts being released. The text getting the most attention is the one reading, “potus wants to know everything we’re doing,” referring to then-President Barack Obama.
Fox News’ report this morning noted, “According to a newly released Senate report, this text raises questions about Obama’s personal involvement in the Clinton email investigation.”
This is the text exchange in question:
The Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee and Chairman Ron Johnson released all the texts along with the committee’s report this morning, which had this to say about that particular exchange:
On September 2, 2016, Page wrote about preparing talking points for [FBI] Director [James] Comey because “potus wants to know everything we’re doing.” This text raises additional questions about the type and extent of President Obama’s personal involvement in the [Hillary] Clinton email scandal and the FBI investigation of it.
There is a footnote to this part that says “The Justice Department notified the Committee that it had redacted other text messages that were personal in nature or relating to other investigations. See Jan. 19th Boyd letter, supra note 5. Presumably, because this message was not redacted, the Department believes it may relate to the FBI’s investigation of classified information on Secretary Clinton’s private server.”
Naturally, there was a lot of coverage of this particular text today on Fox. Congressman Louis Gohmert concluded on Fox & Friends “it means the President wants to know what they’re doing to try to stop Trump.” Brian Kilmeade said the messages raise questions about what Obama knew about the Clinton investigation.
Earlier tonight on The Five, as they led with this report, Dana Perinocautioned, “It could look terrible or it could be he has seeking a briefing about the Russian involvement and meddling in the election. From these text messages, we don’t know that.”
That came shortly after Kimberly Guilfoyle reiterated the same point about how it raises questions about what Obama knew in the Clinton investigation and when:
Well, per The Wall Street Journal:
Text messages from 2016 show preparation to brief Barack Obama about Russia’s interference in that year’s election, according to associates of the FBI employees involved in the exchange, not, as a Republican senator suggested, meddling by the then-president in the federal Hillary Clinton email investigation…
[A]ssociates of Mr. Strzok and Ms. Page said that exchange referred to the president’s wanting information on Russia election meddling, which the FBI was heavily involved in over that period. That exchange occurred just days before Mr. Obama met Russian President Vladimir Putin at a summit in China. Mr. Obama said in December 2016 that he had addressed the issue of tampering with the election process with Mr. Putin at that September meeting.
Senator Johnson recently came under fire after hyping that “secret society” text after it came out and pretty much everyone recognized it as sarcasm.
https://www.mediaite.com/online/oba...-news-reportedly-was-not-about-clinton-probe/
You have provided NO proof yet that Fox lied.
I am upset that you constantly post subjective opinion and liberal political propaganda as facts.
Which part is propaganda?
Well, per The Wall Street Journal:
Text messages from 2016 show preparation to brief Barack Obama about Russia’s interference in that year’s election, according to associates of the FBI employees involved in the exchange, not, as a Republican senator suggested, meddling by the then-president in the federal Hillary Clinton email investigation…
[A]ssociates of Mr. Strzok and Ms. Page said that exchange referred to the president’s wanting information on Russia election meddling, which the FBI was heavily involved in over that period. That exchange occurred just days before Mr. Obama met Russian President Vladimir Putin at a summit in China. Mr. Obama said in December 2016 that he had addressed the issue of tampering with the election process with Mr. Putin at that September meeting.
Senator Johnson recently came under fire after hyping that “secret society” text after it came out and pretty much everyone recognized it as sarcasm.
Again, here's the lie you told on page one of this thread:
Later, you tried to explain the fancy-dancy IF-THEN scenarios you considered to come up with that conclusion. As such, it was, and always will be, an implied assumption.
But instead of saying you are assuming, and implying something, you flat out said i lied about Carter Page being part of Trump's campaign. So that was a lie. Doesn't matter to me (or anybody) what logic you used to float your lie. You lied.
One reason i've never said anything before about Carter Pages part in Trump's campaign, is i don't know the extent of it; have reason to doubt the extent of it; and have reason to doubt anything anybody (especially the media via FBI leak sources) says about it.
Last i heard, for example, Page worked in Russia for Merrill Lynch, was approached by Russians to do some spying, and reported the contact to the FBI.
So i have reason to believe Page is being smeared to initiate an investigation into Trump. Unable to initiate a FISA warrant on the smear campaign the FBI was conducting against Page, they boosted their next application with the famous Trump dossier, and got their warrant to spy on a political opponent.
It is in this time frame, revolving around these facts, that L. Page made her famous comment: "potus wants to know everything we are doing. "
Later, you tried to explain the fancy-dancy IF-THEN scenarios you considered to come up with that conclusion. As such, it was, and always will be, an implied assumption.
But instead of saying you are assuming, and implying something, you flat out said i lied about Carter Page being part of Trump's campaign. So that was a lie. Doesn't matter to me (or anybody) what logic you used to float your lie. You lied.
One reason i've never said anything before about Carter Pages part in Trump's campaign, is i don't know the extent of it; have reason to doubt the extent of it; and have reason to doubt anything anybody (especially the media via FBI leak sources) says about it.
Last i heard, for example, Page worked in Russia for Merrill Lynch, was approached by Russians to do some spying, and reported the contact to the FBI.
So i have reason to believe Page is being smeared to initiate an investigation into Trump. Unable to initiate a FISA warrant on the smear campaign the FBI was conducting against Page, they boosted their next application with the famous Trump dossier, and got their warrant to spy on a political opponent.
It is in this time frame, revolving around these facts, that L. Page made her famous comment: "potus wants to know everything we are doing. "