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Former US State Governor Questions 9/11 Official Story
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Quote from Turok:
No one has explained them because they didn't exist.
JB
you guys will like this.. it's an idiot saying a squib is not a squib when obviously it is a squib:
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nothing to see here either:
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Rat:
>nothing to see here either:
Nothing but the occasional window blowing out due to air pressure building ahead of the collapse.
To reasonably believe they are placed detonations, one would have to determine what possible purpose there would be for a few seemingly random locations.
Explosive building demo required a far more extensive and organized set of actions.
JB
>nothing to see here either:
Nothing but the occasional window blowing out due to air pressure building ahead of the collapse.
To reasonably believe they are placed detonations, one would have to determine what possible purpose there would be for a few seemingly random locations.
Explosive building demo required a far more extensive and organized set of actions.
JB
Quote from Turok:
Rat:
>nothing to see here either:
Nothing but the occasional window blowing out due to air pressure building ahead of the collapse.
To reasonably believe they are placed detonations, one would have to determine what possible purpose there would be for a few seemingly random locations.
Explosive building demo required a far more extensive and organized set of actions.
JB
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
in the south tower... the squib shows at the very beginning of the collapse. this is appx 40 floors below the collapse. so a window pops out from what? did they have some special pipe already set up going from the top floors down 40 floors and out the window?
seriously... you didn't work for a demo company.. unless you were a secretary.
Quote from maxpi:
btw, they are still analyzing the Kennedy killing. The last guy I heard tied it all in with UFO's...... there's not going to be an end to the analysis because it is part of the cover up........
nah.. just stick to your boy arlen's magic bullet fairy tale. you don't need UFOs to make that sound out of touch.
Quote from ratboy88:
nothing to see here either:
conclusion
1. 5p hasn't given the critical path of thermate
2. science does not see a political boundary, it is not here to score political points or to do what 5p is implying (obviously doesn't understand what science means)
3. the collapse has been attributed to "Creep of Metals" i.e. super-heating to above 329 degrees centigrade (0.33Tm)
4. the implosion is from concrete going into tension after the metal framework disintegrated
5. the metal frame work at the higher floors where the jet fuel was burning was above 329 degrees centigrade for tertiary catastrophic failure
conclusion again
1. the heat of the metal framework is radiated throughout the framework, decreasing in temperature further away from the source of the fire
2. so for the 30 minutes that the Towers were up, it is likely that all the imploded floors had steel framework that disintegrated, and therefore, it is likely (very high probability) that up to 40 floors below the crash point, parts of the disintegrating building shot outwards as a path of least resistance
another conclusion
1. it has been proven that it would be logistically impossible to rig the building with explosives.
2. someone whistled on the administrations wire-tapping program, it is likely that someone would have whistled on 9/11 had it been an inside job.
3. Each steel beam being at least 1-2 tonnes in weight. That would be like a car superheated to 329 degrees centigrade from room temperature and finding a path of least resistance, with all that weight above and below it from the surrounding framework. The analogy would be like popping a zit.
another conclusion
1. assuming dynamite is used for the explosives, it would have to be wired up, this would have to have occurred throughout the floors. There were thousands of people there, someone would have seen the wiring and reported it.
2. the people in the Towers had communication links e.g. phones and cell phones, and they would have phoned up about any kind of rigging.
what about the burst tyres of the lorries that carried away the debris
I guess your going to say that that was an inside job as well, when the 18-wheeler's tyres blew up, just after it had been filled with debris, and was about to drive off Ground Zero.
I guess some neocon had filled the tyres with explosives, and waited right to that very point, then decided to remotely blow up the tyres.
yet another conclusion
1. when using explosives for demolision, there is a simultaneous setting off of all explosives.
2. therefore there is no cascading effect, i.e. the whole building is exploded in one go.
3. in the case of the Towers, the top floors went first, followed by subsequent lower floors which is what happens when there is catastrophic structural failure
1. assuming dynamite is used for the explosives, it would have to be wired up, this would have to have occurred throughout the floors. There were thousands of people there, someone would have seen the wiring and reported it.
2. the people in the Towers had communication links e.g. phones and cell phones, and they would have phoned up about any kind of rigging.
what about the burst tyres of the lorries that carried away the debris
I guess your going to say that that was an inside job as well, when the 18-wheeler's tyres blew up, just after it had been filled with debris, and was about to drive off Ground Zero.
I guess some neocon had filled the tyres with explosives, and waited right to that very point, then decided to remotely blow up the tyres.
yet another conclusion
1. when using explosives for demolision, there is a simultaneous setting off of all explosives.
2. therefore there is no cascading effect, i.e. the whole building is exploded in one go.
3. in the case of the Towers, the top floors went first, followed by subsequent lower floors which is what happens when there is catastrophic structural failure
Quote from ratboy88:
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
in the south tower... the squib shows at the very beginning of the collapse. this is appx 40 floors below the collapse. so a window pops out from what? did they have some special pipe already set up going from the top floors down 40 floors and out the window?
seriously... you didn't work for a demo company.. unless you were a secretary.
The answer is yes, if you ever heated metal, you know it expands.
So the steel beam framework is set in place and bolted to an exact length, once the superheating started to occur from the burning jet fuel, the beams would have buckled from expansion.
1. For the vertical beams, they would have bowed outwards, and it is likely that some would have fractured resulting in a squib-like effect
2. For the horizontal beams, they would have expanded sideways, and this would have pushed the vertical beams (both inwards and outwards), so any kind of adjacent structure (like a window/frame), would have come under pressure, and again found the path of least resistance, resulting in a squib-like effect.
3. also as suggested by turok, there would have been pressure compressing downwards (the air had to remove itself somehow) ahead of the weight of the imploding debris above, the higher temperature differential with the outside, coupled with the weakened structure of the lower floors and windows.