foreign aid does more harm than good

[d08]

Baltics in NATO is good enough defensive measure to thwart any adventures.

However, if Russia attacks the Baltics, NATO won't be able to save Baltics and will have to run an intense campaign to put costs high for Russia to retreat. Hence having an extra squadron of planes or tanks or extra 50K troops is not going to help the Baltics against Russia.

So quit asking for an aid from US to make a stronger military for Baltics. Practically speaking, Israel will probably be the last country from which US will pull its aid from.

It seems your main issue is not Baltics but something against Israel. It seems a personal agenda, cannot help you with that.

Luckily the US military command is not as simple minded as you. Russia easily taking the Baltics will likely cause the collapse of NATO as there's really no point to it if the articles are meaningless. Even if it survives somehow, it won't have much of a purpose. Military alliance that's not an alliance, in what world does that make sense?
Russia taking over the Baltics and probably Poland results in Soviet Union pt. 2. That's bad for the US. Much worse compared to anything happening in Israel.

I already understand that US will support Israel no matter what they do. Israel could drop a nuke on Syria just because they can and US would still be talking about a peace process, lol.

The main issue here is American lopsided foreign policy and the fact that in the financial support to Israel, the only real beneficiary is Israel. I commend them for being smart in taking advantage of US, it's really quite brilliant strategically.
Just be straightforward and honest about it, no need for all the ridiculous explanations why US support to Israel is beneficial to US.

 

[zdreg]

When was the last time any country neighboring Israel launches missiles toward Israel?

"Europussies" don't depend on your tax dollars. I bet you have absolutely no idea how NATO works, this is why you're spewing ignorance.

My tax Euros were spent on pointless wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, done just to please the US for the alliance.



So thinking Israel should be treated equally and not given special treatment means "screw the Jews" for you. Skewed view of the world you have.

Apparently you're completely clueless how the economy and taxation works, "their peoples can travel to Western Europe and get jobs and send lots of money back home" - taxes are paid to countries where they are earned. The rest of the money sent back isn't nearly enough to fund a proper military. Or are you suggesting the government starts confiscating funds for the military, I believe that's called a dictatorship.

Finland is wealthy, so is Israel, so why is the money flowing to Israel?

You should read a bit before trying to argue. Your facts are at least 2 decades old, thoroughly outdated.

And what does the Saudi-Yemen war have to do with anything. How is Turkey involved?
Fetching random examples in an attempt to change the discussion?

3 B in military aid to Israel from the US is spend in America thereby creating and sustaining jobs for the American defense industry. Israel has a 5,4 billion defense budget of its own. that money is spent both domestically and internationally. Israel is spending large sums of money on improving their navy because in future wars attacks from the sea will become more prevalent. when they want the best submarines Israel buys from Germany not the US. with their own money.
Israel is the US #1 ally in the Middle East, who share our values as a democracy and are at the
forefront in our battles against common enemies i.e muslim terrorists and the spread of a Muslim Caliphate.

 

[d08]

3 B in military aid to Israel from the US is spend in America thereby creating and sustaining jobs for the American defense industry. Israel has a 5,4 billion defense budget of its own. that money is spent both domestically and internationally. Israel is spending large sums of money on improving their navy because in future wars attacks from the sea will become more prevalent. when they want the best submarines Israel buys from Germany not the US. with their own money.
Israel is the US #1 ally in the Middle East, who share our values as a democracy and are at the
forefront in our battles against common enemies i.e muslim terrorists and the spread of a Muslim Caliphate.

Some of what you said is very true but the question remains, is the number one threat to US some guys with AK-47s and Toyota offroaders in Syria or the nuclear powers of Russia and China with hundreds of subs, jet bombers and a worldwide spy network?
Even US military leaders recently acknowledged that IS is not the number 1 or even 2 priority anymore. Russia consider the US their number 1 enemy by far, IS is primitive and not a real threat to the whole country by any means.
Do you think if you went to Poland and said "here's 3B to improve your military capability but you have to purchase from US", they'd reject it?

 

[toc]

Luckily the US military command is not as simple minded as you. Russia easily taking the Baltics will likely cause the collapse of NATO as there's really no point to it if the articles are meaningless.

NATO expansion eastwards is not to protect the Central and Eastern European countries but a) to create pressure on Russia b) to fight war in Central or Eastern European countries lands rather than on Western European demographics.

The second scenario is suitable for the event NATO attacks Russia. In the event Russia attacks NATO's new poodles...........do not expect much meaningful reaction from Brussles before they come to table and chalk a peaceful way out. NATO alliance was made for AngloSaxon nations (US, UK, France, Germany etc.) not for the "other breeds".

However, good news is Russia has no interest in attacking any country unless its own geopolitical interests are in danger like in Ukraine or Georgia, where Moscow reacted immediately.

 

[Arnie]

When was the last time any country neighboring Israel launches missiles toward Israel?

"Europussies" don't depend on your tax dollars. I bet you have absolutely no idea how NATO works, this is why you're spewing ignorance.

My tax Euros were spent on pointless wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, done just to please the US for the alliance.



So thinking Israel should be treated equally and not given special treatment means "screw the Jews" for you. Skewed view of the world you have.

Apparently you're completely clueless how the economy and taxation works, "their peoples can travel to Western Europe and get jobs and send lots of money back home" - taxes are paid to countries where they are earned. The rest of the money sent back isn't nearly enough to fund a proper military. Or are you suggesting the government starts confiscating funds for the military, I believe that's called a dictatorship.

Finland is wealthy, so is Israel, so why is the money flowing to Israel?

You should read a bit before trying to argue. Your facts are at least 2 decades old, thoroughly outdated.

And what does the Saudi-Yemen war have to do with anything. How is Turkey involved?
Fetching random examples in an attempt to change the discussion?

Since 2001, Palestinian militants have launched thousands[1][2][3][4] of rocket and mortar attacks on Israel from the Gaza Strip as part of the continuing Arab–Israeli conflict. From 2004 to 2014, these attacks have killed 27 Israeli civilians, 5 foreign nationals, 5 IDF soldiers, and at least 11 Palestinians[5] and injured more than 1900 people,[citation needed] but their main effect is their creation of widespread psychological trauma and disruption of daily life among the Israeli populace.[6] Medical studies in Sderot, the Israeli city closest to the Gaza Strip, have documented a post-traumatic stress disorder incidence among young children of almost 50%, as well as high rates of depression and miscarriage.[7][8][9] A public opinion poll conducted in March 2013 found that most Palestinians do not support firing rockets at Israel from the Gaza Strip.[10] Another poll conducted in September 2014 found that 80% of Palestinians support firing rockets against Israel if it does not allow unfettered access to Gaza.[11] These rocket attacks have caused flight cancellations at Ben Gurion airport.[12]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel