For my Christians Friends

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

When you say "I have a belief" there is you, your identity, and there is the belief that you hold. The belief is not your identity, as that belief could be removed and you would still remain. It is no different than someone who says "I am the clothes I wear."

That again is false. The clothes cover the person, they are not the person.

The true identity is not what we wear, or what we believe, etc.

Our true identity never changes from birth to death.

Our true identity uses the intellectual part of the mind to make decisions on what to do, what to say, what to believe, etc., but the intellectual mind is just a tool used by our true identity. No matter what someone says, does, or believes, the "I" of "I believe _______" or "I do _________" or "I think ______" etc....the "I" part never changes. The "I" part is always whole, there is never a fractional part of "I".

That "I" is our real identity.

That which is the "I" of "I experience ______" is never the experience, but the observer of all experience. Our identity always remains apart from what we think, what we do, what we believe....and consequently what we think, what we do, what we believe never changes our true identity.

That people falsely identify themselves as their beliefs, or what they do is common.

What we think, do, or believe changes as we gather more knowledge of the world we live in. That is good! Sometimes the knowledge will be proved untrue, but we wouldn't know it was untrue unless we questioned its truthfulness.
 
Quote from trendlover:

ZZZZ, I don't understand your posts many times, so I have no comment. But one part I want to ask a question about [....]
Were you to ever get any sort of non contradictory answer from the TRollZzz that appeared in any way remotely coherent to you, perhaps you would kindly explain it to the rest of us. You might then in turn try explaining it back to the Troll Itself , although you'd be wise not to expect It to understand anything you say
 
"perhaps you would kindly explain it to the rest of us."

Another fine example of the "us" collective mentality that is so common at ET...

Oh well, some people don't have the inner security to just speak for themselves, they feel safer when they speak as part of a collective...

Quote from stu:

Were you to ever get any sort of non contradictory answer from the TRollZzz that appeared in any way remotely coherent to you, perhaps you would kindly explain it to the rest of us. You might then in turn try explaining it back to the Troll Itself , although you'd be wise not to expect It to understand anything you say
 
Quote from stu:

Were you to ever get any sort of non contradictory answer from the TRollZzz that appeared in any way remotely coherent to you, perhaps you would kindly explain it to the rest of us. You might then in turn try explaining it back to the Troll Itself , although you'd be wise not to expect It to understand anything you say

Ok, I think ZZZ writing style confuses me. I can't follow sometimes.
 
So you get confused by the writing style and you can't follow sometimes.

Okay.

You are welcome to ask for clarification if you wish.

Quote from trendlover:

Ok, I think ZZZ writing style confuses me. I can't follow sometimes.
 
Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

So you get confused by the writing style and you can't follow sometimes.

Okay.

You are welcome to ask for clarification if you wish.

I will. I don't have any questions right now because I don't understand your posts sometimes to even have a question.
But thank you for offering to clarify.
 
Quote from stu:

Were you to ever get any sort of non contradictory answer from the TRollZzz that appeared in any way remotely coherent to you, perhaps you would kindly explain it to the rest of us. You might then in turn try explaining it back to the Troll Itself , although you'd be wise not to expect It to understand anything you say


monkey explanation for those who can't comprehend.



If you feed your faith, your faith will grow.
If you feed your doubts, your doubts will grow.




Turth cannot conflict with truth
 
Lord Turok praising himself again...

Lord Turok, master of self gratification.

Quote from Turok:

Ztroll:
>Blessed be Lord Turok!

I try. Though I can never hope to be Gilbert.

Praise be.

JB
 
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