For my Christians Friends
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And do evil to large amounts of people.
I am religion itself?
LOL!
That would make you non religion itself...
Fascinating. Your apparently view your belief systems as your own personality, your own identity...not just a set of beliefs you hold in your mind.
Most would say a person practices a religion, has and or holds religious beliefs, as they know that the real identify of a person is not established in the beliefs they hold. The identity is the part that decided to hold the beliefs, but is not the beliefs themselves.
You have a very strange concept of things...and this also explains when someone attacks your belief systems, you respond as if your very identity was under attack.
Additionally, If someone attacks another person's beliefs, those beliefs being the same beliefs as you have, you must personally feel attacked as you and any other person with the same beliefs have the same identity as the belief itself. This is why you feel the need to defend the other person's belief systems, because you feel your own identity is threatened when someone else and their own separate and personal beliefs are challenged. You are those who hold the same beliefs and you have the same identity as those, you are not separate identities. Kind of like a child at a very young age who has not individuated from its mother, but thinks his mother is part of his own identity.
So much for the concept of independent mature thinking by stu...
I think you may want to get some therapy to establish some sense of individuation from belief systems so you can mature to a separate identity than your belief systems...find out that your belief systems are not you, any more than you are the clothing you wear on your back.
LOL!
That would make you non religion itself...
Fascinating. Your apparently view your belief systems as your own personality, your own identity...not just a set of beliefs you hold in your mind.
Most would say a person practices a religion, has and or holds religious beliefs, as they know that the real identify of a person is not established in the beliefs they hold. The identity is the part that decided to hold the beliefs, but is not the beliefs themselves.
You have a very strange concept of things...and this also explains when someone attacks your belief systems, you respond as if your very identity was under attack.
Additionally, If someone attacks another person's beliefs, those beliefs being the same beliefs as you have, you must personally feel attacked as you and any other person with the same beliefs have the same identity as the belief itself. This is why you feel the need to defend the other person's belief systems, because you feel your own identity is threatened when someone else and their own separate and personal beliefs are challenged. You are those who hold the same beliefs and you have the same identity as those, you are not separate identities. Kind of like a child at a very young age who has not individuated from its mother, but thinks his mother is part of his own identity.
So much for the concept of independent mature thinking by stu...
I think you may want to get some therapy to establish some sense of individuation from belief systems so you can mature to a separate identity than your belief systems...find out that your belief systems are not you, any more than you are the clothing you wear on your back.
Quote from stu:
Agreed, but why not for a little while. By themselves. As each wishes.....
.....it could be called...
breaktime
I follow Stu, and for me I wouldn't need any "special" time put aside. For many people however, it really means something to them to have specific time assigned to worship or prayer.
Seems to me a small silent period for all students to do their own spiritual thing (or not) would be a great compromise.
JB
Yes Turok, that is the best word for it, compromise as you said.
I would not want any time to pray either, but as long as I am not forced to join along with those praying, I have no problem with prayer in school. Maybe I could take that time to go over the days agenda, or have a snack?
Blessed be that Lord Turok is here to remove all the confusion from the minds of mere mortal man.
Living a full life, playing guitar alone in a motel room, talking to Dusty behind the backstop, serving time in prison, educating the masses on the reality of Christianity...these are but a few of Lord Turok's ways of bringing enlightenment to the world.
Blessed be Lord Turok!
Living a full life, playing guitar alone in a motel room, talking to Dusty behind the backstop, serving time in prison, educating the masses on the reality of Christianity...these are but a few of Lord Turok's ways of bringing enlightenment to the world.
Blessed be Lord Turok!
ZZZZ, I don't understand your posts many times, so I have no comment. But one part I want to ask a question about is when you said "The identity is the part that decided to hold the belief, but is not the belief themselves."
When the identity decided to hold the belief, how did it do that? What I'm saying is an identity only holds a belief that someone has taught them. A baby isn't born with a known belief, but baby will be taught a belief system by its teacher/mother/father.
When the identity decided to hold the belief, how did it do that? What I'm saying is an identity only holds a belief that someone has taught them. A baby isn't born with a known belief, but baby will be taught a belief system by its teacher/mother/father.
When you say "I have a belief" there is you, your identity, and there is the belief that you hold. The belief is not your identity, as that belief could be removed and you would still remain. It is no different than someone who says "I am the clothes I wear."
That again is false. The clothes cover the person, they are not the person.
The true identity is not what we wear, or what we believe, etc.
Our true identity never changes from birth to death.
Our true identity uses the intellectual part of the mind to make decisions on what to do, what to say, what to believe, etc., but the intellectual mind is just a tool used by our true identity. No matter what someone says, does, or believes, the "I" of "I believe _______" or "I do _________" or "I think ______" etc....the "I" part never changes. The "I" part is always whole, there is never a fractional part of "I".
That "I" is our real identity.
That which is the "I" of "I experience ______" is never the experience, but the observer of all experience. Our identity always remains apart from what we think, what we do, what we believe....and consequently what we think, what we do, what we believe never changes our true identity.
That people falsely identify themselves as their beliefs, or what they do is common.
That again is false. The clothes cover the person, they are not the person.
The true identity is not what we wear, or what we believe, etc.
Our true identity never changes from birth to death.
Our true identity uses the intellectual part of the mind to make decisions on what to do, what to say, what to believe, etc., but the intellectual mind is just a tool used by our true identity. No matter what someone says, does, or believes, the "I" of "I believe _______" or "I do _________" or "I think ______" etc....the "I" part never changes. The "I" part is always whole, there is never a fractional part of "I".
That "I" is our real identity.
That which is the "I" of "I experience ______" is never the experience, but the observer of all experience. Our identity always remains apart from what we think, what we do, what we believe....and consequently what we think, what we do, what we believe never changes our true identity.
That people falsely identify themselves as their beliefs, or what they do is common.