Hopefully your es trading skills are better than your poor humor and logic. Logic is king in your book. So tell us how you prove your unrestricted negative of God does not exist using logic ? I'm all ears and will convert to atheist as soon as you prove to me that a God does not exist. Until then you are just running your mouth basing your position on opinion and not factual data which makes you no different than a theist. Sorry T dog, your position on belief in God from a logic perspective is just as flawed as mine. The only right choice from a logic perspective is agnostic. To say God does not exist is your ego talking because you sure the hell can't prove your assertion.
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Hopefully your es trading skills are better than your poor humor and logic. Logic is king in your book. So tell us how you prove your unrestricted negative of God does not exist using logic ? I'm all ears and will convert to atheist as soon as you prove to me that a God does not exist. Until then you are just running your mouth basing your position on opinion and not factual data which makes you no different than a theist. Sorry T dog, your position on belief in God from a logic perspective is just as flawed as mine. The only right choice from a logic perspective is agnostic. To say God does not exist is your ego talking because you sure the hell can't prove your assertion.
A few things.
1. Science is not a religion. It's a methodology.
2. Concluding that there is no god(s) is not an assertion. It's a conclusion.
Do you realize that you are already an atheist? Unless I'm mistaken and you believe in all the Gods people hold dear currently.
Anyway, I know you're going to keep going on and on asserting that atheism makes the assertion that there is no God because if you didn't you'd have to face the reality that the only assertions are that God exists (general theist assertion) or that it's impossible for a god to exist (minority atheist view).
Understand this as best you can. Any atheist that runs around saying that it is impossible for god(s) to exist is making an assertion which they haven't proven yet. Unfortunately for you, the majority of atheists do not go that far but instead simply take the theist assertion of their God's existence and concluding from both their lack and the atheist's lack of evidence that amounts to proof, that the asserted gods so far do not exist.
Atheism is the antithesis to theism.
So atheists, agnostics, as well as rational theists, rely on science to answer questions pertaining to the material world. Currently, we have no known ability to address the alleged supernatural world. Something which has been asserted but never proven to exist. Therefore, scientists are relegated to dealing with tangible concepts in order to better understand the material world we all live in. There's no religion surrounding it. It's merely a bunch of conclusions and theories that stand until proven otherwise or given reason to doubt and investigate further. Science is a work in progress. The more we learn, the more we grow for better or for worse.
Don't think that if any of the theist assertions find evidence that scientists will ignore it. Theist assertions are PROFOUND. Their proof will only help us better understand the material universe we live in and add another dimension to our understanding and research.
So moderate your rhetoric.
A methodolog based on theories.
Theories that are
A BELIEF or principle that guides action or assists comprehension or judgment:
Science is you God, and requires just as much faith in others as religion.
Conclusion
a position or opinion or judgment reached after consideration
an intuitive ASSumption
An atheist asserts their belief that that God does not exist. The attacks in this thread are proof of that. Now it's time to prove your assertion.
âA mind that is stretched by a new experience can never go back to its old dimensions.â
Don't hold your breath. The faithmongers have nothing but rhetoric, at the best of times. I wouldn't even call many of these statements rhetorical. More like pure assertion.
I knew that sooner or later, volente would be forced into a corner and would bail out into the old 'Prove that God doesn't exist. You can't? Well then, God exists' canard. It always ends this way. The faithmongers get their heads handed to them, dialectically speaking, and then have no choice but to basically say 'I'm right and you're wrong and I'm sticking my fingers in my ears and I can't hear you'.
In the past I tried to imagine what kind of mind it would take to believe in something like God. How credulous would one have to be? What else might a faithmonger be convinced of, if they believe in the God Delusion?
religion
A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.
Sounds like atheism fits in there to me.
A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.
Sounds like atheism fits in there to me.
Great another atheist who can't show proof of non existence so they resort to ad hominem. In a corner ? lol, you clowns don't like that the same failed logic you used can be used against your assertion. I hear you loud and clear, problem is you can't show me proof of your assertion so why should I believe you ? The problem with your type is you put belief of God and belief in a religion in the same category and are not open minded enough to see the fallacy in that alone.
"I lost my wallet and then I found it. Therefore, God exists"
volente, posting on ET
April, 2008
volente, posting on ET
April, 2008