For my Christians Friends

[volente_00]

Quote from Thunderdog:

If Einstein believed in a supernatural God as you do, then why the vociferous dissent from the theist community:

I posted Einstein's quoted words.

You posted what other's thought about him.


Which do you think represents him more ?

His own opinion or other's opinion of him ?


The fact remains, Einstein believed in a higher power. As far as the scope of the higher power, our minds are too limited to explain it.

 

[volente_00]

Quote from Thunderdog:

Perish the thought. God is merciful and all forgiving. (He turned over a new leaf since the Old Testament.) Therefore, you can engage in the most heinous of activities just so long as you don't forget to say to God, "Oh yeah, sorry about that." And you shall be forgiven. It's quite simple, really. And it has proven to be quite practical. For example, which would be harder: to earn enough money to buy something expensive, or to just steal it and ask God for forgiveness (and possibly even return it after you're finished using it just to show your sincerity)? Or cause others pain and suffering for years and then exhibit sincere contrition for a few moments on your deathbed, and voilà?

Nice of you to bring this up. God does not give you what you want. He gave you a mind and it is up to you what you choose to do with it.So how does prayer work you ask ?

Does prayer get answered ?


Could it be that perhaps once one starts putting their mind to something and repeating it over and over, the natural laws of the universe take over. Every act of a man springs from the hidden seeds of thought.


So when someone uses their own mind, and makes choices that hurt other people, why do you say God is at fault ?

 

[volente_00]

Quote from Turok:

Voo:
>The only choice from a logic argument is agnosticism.

A: I AM an agnostic, but your logic is beyond suspect (see "B")

B: Since you can't grasp the elementary logic of "you can't prove a negative", you are hardly the one to be defining logical argument choices. LOL

JB

So tell us how you prove your unrestricted negative of God does not exist ?

 

[Thunderdog]

Quote from volente_00:

I posted Einstein's quoted words...

Actually, no. You quoted a journalist's "recollection" of his words. It is the theists who violently disagreed with him that responded to his actual words.

 

[Thunderdog]

Quote from volente_00:

...Could it be that perhaps once one starts putting their mind to something and repeating it over and over, the natural laws of the universe take over. Every act of a man springs from the hidden seeds of thought....

I just hope you realize that you are succumbing to mystical quackery and the supernatural.

 

[volente_00]

Quote from Thunderdog:

Actually, no. You quoted a journalist's "recollection" of his words. It is the theists who violently disagreed with him that responded to his actual words.

From a letter he wrote


"In the Summer of 1945, just before the bombs of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Einstein wrote a short letter stating his position as an atheist (Figure 1). Ensign Guy H. Raner had written Einstein from mid-Pacific requesting a clarification on the beliefs of the world famous scientist (Figure 2). Four years later Raner again wrote Einstein for further clarification and asked "Some people might interpret (your letter) to mean that to a Jesuit priest, anyone not a Roman Catholic is an atheist, and that you are in fact an orthodox Jew, or a Deist, or something else. Did you mean to leave room for such an interpretation, or are you from the viewpoint of the dictionary an atheist; i.e., 'one who disbelieves in the existence of a God, or a Supreme Being'?" Einstein's response is shown in Figure 3."




His response to the letter


"From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and have always been an atheist.... I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious indoctrination received in youth. I prefer an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our being."

 

[volente_00]

Do you believe in ufo's tdog ?

 

[volente_00]

Quote from Thunderdog:

I just hope you realize that you are succumbing to mystical quackery and the supernatural.

So what is your argument against positive thinking ?



Why are atheist so bitter and negative ?

 

[Thunderdog]

Quote from volente_00:

So what is your argument against positive thinking ?



Why are atheist so bitter and negative ?

Bitter? Negative? Not at all. I think positive thinking is a very good thing, so long as it is grounded in reality. I just don't expect the universe to align behind me.

Are you perhaps bitter at the notion that a supernatural being is not looking after you?

 

[Thunderdog]

Quote from volente_00:

Do you believe in ufo's tdog ?

I'd say that the probability of alien life forms visiting Earth from another galaxy is rather remote, when you consider that the distance is measured in light years. But that's just my guess. Do I believe there are other life forms in the universe? Given its immense size as we currently understand it, I would guess that the chances are fairly good that life exists elsewhere in one form or another. Again, just guessing.