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For my Christians Friends
- Thread starter nyxtrader
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Quote from stu:
I have a winning system. Why would I fade it just because someone says it's losing whilst at the same time pretends they have a better one.
stu
Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?
Dougla Adams
Winning is relative. This world is about winners and losers. The market is a good metaphor for that. Its a place to compare your Benz to the other's Porche.
My point is that whether winning or losing, in this system all are losers. The reality is that all players have everything, given by God as their inheritance. This is exchanged to make comparisons...to be special, different, autonomous. The penchant to make comparisons is what reduces the magnitude of your inheritance to littleness...even if it looks like a Benz.
Note well: Both winners and losers die. What kind of "winning" system is that? What I'm saying is that the Son of God, in who's inheritance you share, will never be content with less than what God gave him, and God does not give less than everything, always, without exception. Therefore, if you are not experiencing the magnitude of everything, you must have tossed your inheritance away. For what? The experience of inequality can be your only option, since all the Sons of God are equal.
The drive to compare is what gives rise to the alien phenomenon known as "man", which is literally a comparison device from its very inception. Man "lives" only in comparison with "death". But he is not really living...he is comparing. As a result, everything in this world is *little*...even Texas. It is all about littleness. The Kingdom is about abundance. I challenge everyone to consider what that means. It is not *better*. It is total, complete, glorious and magnanimous. It is *everything* belonging to *all*.
The power of your inheritance can never be sold or given away. However, it can be "squandered" on the making of this world. Yes, you have the power to make this whole universe as a means to make comparisons. This sets up a trap in which you fool yourself into thinking you are content. Because of who you are in reality, that is an impossibility.
Jesus
The problem with the analogy of a map and the bible is a simple one.
Following a map does not take faith, it takes trust.
I can immediately go out and test to see if the map is correct (trustworthy) or not. And generally at each step of the way.
With the bible or any religious book or guide, I cannot.
Following a map does not take faith, it takes trust.
I can immediately go out and test to see if the map is correct (trustworthy) or not. And generally at each step of the way.
With the bible or any religious book or guide, I cannot.
Quote from DerekD:
I can immediately go out and test to see if the map is correct (trustworthy) or not. And generally at each step of the way.
With the bible or any religious book or guide, I cannot.
Yes, for the men of reason, this is the case. However, faith is often self-referential. The believers will tell you that they see proofs (tests met) of the correctness of the bible all the time. This is because they are viewing events in their world through the prism of their faith.
Quote from Turok:
Volente 00, I'm still waiting for you to go somewhere with your question and my answer.
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1873805&highlight#post1873805
Keep me posted.
JB
So do you expect me to believe anothers experience about seeing oxygen ?
If I do, that makes me no different than a theist who believes other's experiences in the bible.
Quote from DerekD:
The problem with the analogy of a map and the bible is a simple one.
Following a map does not take faith, it takes trust.
I can immediately go out and test to see if the map is correct (trustworthy) or not. And generally at each step of the way.
With the bible or any religious book or guide, I cannot.
So you have 100% tested and can show me PROOF there is absolutely no God ?
As I said before, lack of evidence does not prove non existance. Tell me what oxygen looks like again.
"If a watch proves the existence of a watchmaker but the universe does not prove the existence of a great Architect, then I consent to be called a fool."
Quote from DerekD:
The problem with the analogy of a map and the bible is a simple one.
Following a map does not take faith, it takes trust.
I can immediately go out and test to see if the map is correct (trustworthy) or not. And generally at each step of the way.
With the bible or any religious book or guide, I cannot.
In God We Trust, your nation's motto
Faith is no different from trust. Both require belief without evidence.
Smartest atheist I know
http://www.doesgodexist.org/AboutClayton/PastLife.html
What you see oftens depends on what you are looking for.
http://www.doesgodexist.org/AboutClayton/PastLife.html
What you see oftens depends on what you are looking for.