For my Christians Friends

The legal definition is not the common one, and is not "offbeat."

The one held by stu is the commoner definition...bland, bald, and self serving in its nature.

Having a personal world view is one thing.

Devoting time with other like minded followers of a particular world/non world view in a collective manner to defend that world view, meeting on message boards collectively to promote that world view, defending other members of their faith when one of the members is questioned, speaking of Gilbert or flying spaghetti monsters as their chosen one, having political agendas to advance that world view and uproot other religious practices, ridicule of other religions...all common features of religions and their fanatical followers these days.

Same religious fervor is present in the religion of atheism...same fundamentalism, same dogmatism, same intolerance of minority opinions, same projection of the "right way" to view the world...

Thanks for confirming things, now the other members of the church of atheism will pitch in for further confirmation...

Quote from DerekD:

LOL.

Yeah, yeah, I know Z. You eschew "commoner" definitions in favor of off beat, illicit ones.

But still, you might have wanted to read the entire article before posting.

And before some moron... erm, wise ass, eh hmm, I mean smarty pants thinks they might have a point concerning the phrase belief system... Just bear in mind that a philosophy, world view, and ideology are also examples of a belief system. Don't think because you see the word "belief" it always refers to religion.
 
Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

The legal definition is not the common one, and is not "offbeat."

The one held by stu is the commoner definition...bland, bald, and self serving in its nature.

Having a personal world view is one thing.

Devoting time with other like minded followers of a particular world/non world view in a collective manner to defend that world view, meeting on message boards collectively to promote that world view, defending other members of their faith when one of the members is questioned, speaking of Gilbert or flying spaghetti monsters as their chosen one, having political agendas to advance that world view and uproot other religious practices, ridicule of other religions...all common features of religions and their fanatical followers these days.

Same religious fervor is present in the religion of atheism...same fundamentalism, same dogmatism, same intolerance of minority opinions, same projection of the "right way" to view the world...

Thanks for confirming things, now the other members of the church of atheism will pitch in for further confirmation...

Geepers. So Liberalism is a religion. Conservativism is a religion. Being "green" is a religion. Etc. Etc.

In fact, by the way you view things, all "isms" are religions.

Thank... god, there are common definitions to help us properly differentiate between concepts.
 
Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:
The legal definition is not the common one, and is not "offbeat."
The one held by stu is the commoner definition...bland, bald, and self serving in its nature.
Having a personal world view is one thing.
Devoting time with other like minded followers of a particular world/non world view in a collective manner to defend that world view, meeting on message boards collectively to promote that world view, defending other members of their faith when one of the members is questioned, speaking of Gilbert or flying spaghetti monsters as their chosen one, having political agendas to advance that world view and uproot other religious practices, ridicule of other religions...all common features of religions and their fanatical followers these days.
Same religious fervor is present in the religion of atheism...same fundamentalism, same dogmatism, same intolerance of minority opinions, same projection of the "right way" to view the world...
Thanks for confirming things, now the other members of the church of atheism will pitch in for further confirmation...
....Trolling in 17,975 - nearly 90 posts per week, making false statements , distorting fact, contradiction after contradiction , misleading and contorting to absurdity just because it's pointed out. In defense of nothing other than what is a 3 letter word, which by a TrollZZzz admission can mean anything anyone wants it to at all.
All that in one degree or another is the intolerance and extremism some theists go to in defence of their indefensible argument.
 
Liberalism as practiced by some is their religion.

Being "green" for some is religion.

Conservativism for some is religion.

All isms if practiced with fanaticism, dogmatism, totalitarianism, a need ridicule opposing views are religion.

You forgot nationalism, which was the religion of the Nazis...

Atheism, is indeed a religion.

Common definitions below confirm just that...

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re·li·gion Audio Help /rɪˈlɪdʒən/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ri-lij-uhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.
4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.
5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice.
7. religions, Archaic. religious rites.
8. Archaic. strict faithfulness; devotion: a religion to one's vow.
—Idiom
9. get religion, Informal.
a. to acquire a deep conviction of the validity of religious beliefs and practices.
b. to resolve to mend one's errant ways: The company got religion and stopped making dangerous products.
[Origin: 1150–1200; ME religioun (< OF religion) < L religi&#333;n- (s. of religi&#333;) conscientiousness, piety, equiv. to relig(&#257;re) to tie, fasten (re- re- + lig&#257;re to bind, tie; cf. ligament) + -i&#333;n- -ion; cf. rely]

—Related forms
re·li·gion·less, adjective
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Quote from DerekD:

Geepers. So Liberalism is a religion. Conservativism is a religion. Being "green" is a religion. Etc. Etc.

In fact, by the way you view things, all "isms" are religions.

Thank... god, there are common definitions to help us properly differentiate between concepts.
 
Another ad hominem, you got anything other than logical fallacy to counter the argument?

I didn't think so...

Quote from stu:

....Trolling in 17,975 - nearly 90 posts per week, making false statements , distorting fact, contradiction after contradiction , misleading and contorting to absurdity just because it's pointed out. In defense of nothing other than what is a 3 letter word, which by a TrollZZzz admission can mean anything anyone wants it to at all.
All that in one degree or another is the intolerance and extremism some theists go to in defence of their indefensible argument.
 
Thinking is not required when dealing with you stu...a simple swatting motion is all that is required to respond to your primitive predictable infantile reactionary responses...I am curious to see if you can control your childish impulses or if you continue thrashing about so ineffectively.

My guess is the latter...


Quote from stu:

...exactly, you don't think.

You are a TRoll, you have no argument to counter.
 
Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

Thinking is not required when dealing with you stu...a simple swatting motion is all that is required to respond to your primitive predictable infantile reactionary responses...I am curious to see if you can control your childish impulses or if you continue thrashing about so ineffectively.

My guess is the latter...
...well obviously now you can't swat nor make reasonable argument to counter. I suggest you might do better to control your own predictable infantile reactionary responses before criticizing other people. It may help stop The TRoll in you .

Unlike yourself, I won't need guess what your reaction will be..
 
As expected, as predicted, right on cue...

Ding, ding, ding...

Quote from stu:

...well obviously now you can't swat nor make reasonable argument to counter. I suggest you might do better to control your own predictable infantile reactionary responses before criticizing other people. It may help stop The TRoll in you .

Unlike yourself, I won't need guess what your reaction will be..
 
Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

As expected, as predicted, right on cue...

Ding, ding, ding...

Golly, Mr omnipotent Z, you had to guess the latter, yet you claim the response was predicted AND expected!!!!!!!!!!!!


Wow, so beleif is a dualistic sport, even a multiplicity, where you can, like the hardy boys, just choose your own adventure?
 
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