Florida’s Teacher of the Year Bluntly Writes WHY School Violence Is Out of Control

Would this include my old Sears model 25, 22 caliber semi?

It's such a fearsome weapon.... If you're a squirrel perhaps.

My dad once told me to be careful with a 22. He said if you shoot someone with it, they might get pissed.
 
Florida House refuses to debate guns but declares porn dangerous:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...clares-porn-dangerous/?utm_term=.a1eec7e01199

The Florida House of Representatives was in session on Tuesday considering several issues. These included a motion to debate a bill banning the sale of assault weapons in the aftermath of the mass shooting that killed 17 people last week at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., and a resolution declaring pornography a public health risk.

The House chose not to consider the gun-control bill.

It later passed the resolution claiming that porn is dangerous.

“Unfortunately, just five days after 17 people were gunned down at a Florida school, the Florida House just passed a bill that declares pornography a ‘public health risk,’” state Rep. Carlos Guillermo Smith (D) told the Independent. “Basically, what they have determined is that these are the Republican priorities in 2018: Wasting our time with debate and legislation that declares porn as a health threat. Meanwhile we can’t even get a single debate, vote or hearing on anything related to assault weapons.”

“That’s really sad,” he added.

Tuesday’s session opened with state Rep. Kionne McGhee (D) asking for a procedural change to allow the House to consider the bill banning assault weapons, which was assigned to three committees but had not yet been scheduled for a hearing.

“I ask that you keep this bill and the conversation about the solution to combat mass shootings alive,” McGhee declared. “The shooting at Parkland demands extraordinary action.”

The House voted down the motion 71 to 36 within three minutes as survivors of the shooting watched from the gallery of the Capitol.

“It was just so heartbreaking to see how many [voters’] names were up there, especially after it was my school,” Sheryl Acquaroli, a 16-year-old junior at Stoneman Douglas who was watching, told CNN. “It seemed almost heartless how they immediately pushed the button to say no.”

“They had a chance to stop it today. If there is another mass shooting it’s going to be their fault,” she added.

Less than an hour later, state Rep. Ross Spano (R) presented his resolution, arguing that viewing porn can lead to both “mental and physical illnesses” along with “deviant, or problematic sexual behaviors.”

Smith asked Spano a series of questions, among them whether anyone has ever been “been physically handicapped” by porn, or if porn had ever caused any first responders to seek therapy for post-traumatic stress disorder.

“Do you believe that identifying porn as a public health risk is more important than identifying gun violence as a public health violence, especially after the events of this week and the events of June 12, 2016, when 29 people were murdered by gun violence at Pulse?” Smith asked.

While there is some evidence that pornography can be mentally damaging, there is also support for the argument that it leads to greater sexual satisfaction. No scientific consensus exists on its overall positive or negative effect.

The House approved the resolution by a voice vote, to the chagrin of many House Democrats.

“He was saying porn as a health risk was more important to address here in the Florida legislature than the epidemic of gun violence,” Smith later told the Associated Press. “These are their priorities. I don’t understand the politics, to be honest, if I’m being honest. I’m not aware there’s a base of voters who are losing sleep every night over the epidemic of pornography as a public health crisis.”
 
Florida House refuses to debate guns but declares porn dangerous:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...clares-porn-dangerous/?utm_term=.a1eec7e01199

The Florida House of Representatives was in session on Tuesday considering several issues. These included a motion to debate a bill banning the sale of assault weapons in the aftermath of the mass shooting that killed 17 people last week at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., and a resolution declaring pornography a public health risk.

The House chose not to consider the gun-control bill.

It later passed the resolution claiming that porn is dangerous.

“Unfortunately, just five days after 17 people were gunned down at a Florida school, the Florida House just passed a bill that declares pornography a ‘public health risk,’” state Rep. Carlos Guillermo Smith (D) told the Independent. “Basically, what they have determined is that these are the Republican priorities in 2018: Wasting our time with debate and legislation that declares porn as a health threat. Meanwhile we can’t even get a single debate, vote or hearing on anything related to assault weapons.”

“That’s really sad,” he added.

Tuesday’s session opened with state Rep. Kionne McGhee (D) asking for a procedural change to allow the House to consider the bill banning assault weapons, which was assigned to three committees but had not yet been scheduled for a hearing.

“I ask that you keep this bill and the conversation about the solution to combat mass shootings alive,” McGhee declared. “The shooting at Parkland demands extraordinary action.”

The House voted down the motion 71 to 36 within three minutes as survivors of the shooting watched from the gallery of the Capitol.

“It was just so heartbreaking to see how many [voters’] names were up there, especially after it was my school,” Sheryl Acquaroli, a 16-year-old junior at Stoneman Douglas who was watching, told CNN. “It seemed almost heartless how they immediately pushed the button to say no.”

“They had a chance to stop it today. If there is another mass shooting it’s going to be their fault,” she added.

Less than an hour later, state Rep. Ross Spano (R) presented his resolution, arguing that viewing porn can lead to both “mental and physical illnesses” along with “deviant, or problematic sexual behaviors.”

Smith asked Spano a series of questions, among them whether anyone has ever been “been physically handicapped” by porn, or if porn had ever caused any first responders to seek therapy for post-traumatic stress disorder.

“Do you believe that identifying porn as a public health risk is more important than identifying gun violence as a public health violence, especially after the events of this week and the events of June 12, 2016, when 29 people were murdered by gun violence at Pulse?” Smith asked.

While there is some evidence that pornography can be mentally damaging, there is also support for the argument that it leads to greater sexual satisfaction. No scientific consensus exists on its overall positive or negative effect.

The House approved the resolution by a voice vote, to the chagrin of many House Democrats.

“He was saying porn as a health risk was more important to address here in the Florida legislature than the epidemic of gun violence,” Smith later told the Associated Press. “These are their priorities. I don’t understand the politics, to be honest, if I’m being honest. I’m not aware there’s a base of voters who are losing sleep every night over the epidemic of pornography as a public health crisis.”

While the porn being dangerous declaration is asinine, so too would be a bill banning "assault rifles" in Florida. Other than making a political statement, the bill would have absolutely no real world effect whatsoever apart from making people drive into Georgia to buy whatever was restricted.

Kinda like a soda tax.
 
Would this include my old Sears model 25, 22 caliber semi?

It's such a fearsome weapon.... If you're a squirrel perhaps.
I would think it might. Though our recent history is filled with passing absurdly flawed, gun control laws*, I'm sensing that's about to change. If those teenagers get some financial support behind them and go on a rampage -- I know I'd happily send them a Hamilton or two -- then the gun lobby might as well pack it in..
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*Did the Healthcare Lobby learn the fine art of poison pills or small deletions from the experts in the gun lobby? It seems they might have...
 
While the porn being dangerous declaration is asinine, so too would be a bill banning "assault rifles" in Florida. Other than making a political statement, the bill would have absolutely no real world effect whatsoever apart from making people drive into Georgia to buy whatever was restricted.
I could not agree more. When are we going to grow up and realize that gun control must be a Federal initiative. The laws must be uniform throughout the United States and its territories. States Rights make sense when it comes to selecting the State Bird and the State Tree, but not when it comes to gun control. Let's face it! We are a nation of idiots! How we got this far I'll never know. Must have been by accident.
 
I could not agree more. When are we going to grow up and realize that gun control must be a Federal initiative. The laws must be uniform throughout the United States and its territories. States Rights make sense when it comes to selecting the State Bird and the State Tree, but not when it comes to gun control. Let's face it! We are a nation of idiots! How we got this far I'll never know. Must have been by accident.

Gun bans won't work anywhere, but they would be less ineffective if done Federally.
 
Gun bans won't work anywhere, but they would be less ineffective if done Federally.
Both of these statements can be easily shown to be false. Google is a wonderful resource. (Semi-automatics are restricted in Canada, still by the way, even after the 2012 relaxation of universal registration on unrestricted firearms.

My suggestion would be to start by copying Canada's very permissive gun laws word for word, and then allow 180 days for all existing guns in the U.S. to be brought into compliance or be classified as illegal. If you want a semi-automatic there is no reason why that gun should not be subjected to very rigid universal registration requirements that allow ownership to be traced via a national data base. If you don't want to register your guns, then get an unrestricted one, i.e., guns suitable for target shooting or hunting. Along with Canada's detailed, Federal gun control laws, you'll want to check out Canadian statistics on gun crimes.

You're really embarrassing yourself with your statements that are absurd on their face. Real facts are so easy to come by these days why do you persist with fake ones. It must be your Russian Connection. As we all know, the Russians have a long history with fake news and alternative "facts." They are the experts in that regard.
 
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I would think it might. Though our recent history is filled with passing absurdly flawed, gun control laws*, I'm sensing that's about to change. If those teenagers get some financial support behind them and go on a rampage -- I know I'd happily send them a Hamilton or two -- then the gun lobby might as well pack it in..
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*Did the Healthcare Lobby learn the fine art of poison pills or small deletions from the experts in the gun lobby? It seems they might have...

If a 22 semi-automatic is regarded in the same light as an assault weapon, then the whole matter is nothing more than an emotional overreach.

I'm saddened by the events but these students are being used as political pawns.

Yes, something needs to be done but just banning guns will not stop the problem. These killings are just the symptoms, you need to address the social sickness that's causing them.
 
Both of these statement can be easily shown to be false.

Ok, I'm very interested in understanding how you'd ban guns. However, let's do it in the Gun Control Civil Discourse thread to ensure the conversation remains civil and there's full debate without peanut gallery.

See last post, where I've mentioned our conversation here.
 
Both of these statement can be easily shown to be false.

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