Fiorina Hits the Ball out of the park on this one

Pie, I do like you but your naivete takes my breath away sometimes. The Kerry bio by the Globe reporters was nothing but an extended campaign ad. No different form any of these politcla books that get released just as the subject declares for the presidency i suppose, but hardly serious scholarship.

Frankly, Kerry doesn't interest me. I have said before that he was in considerable danger. I knew a guy who was a Swift boat officer and he told me it was hair raising at times. I thnk what pissed off his detractors is he acted like he was a big hero for doing what they all did every day. Plus, there was his despicable anti-war activity after he returned home.
Let the facts speak for themselves.

"I think what pissed off his detractors is he acted like he was a big hero"

This is a fabrication. Kerry virtually never spoke of his personal heroic acts. They were made known by others, mainly the sailors that served under him.

Kerry helped end the disastrous Vietnam war with his testimony in the Fulbright hearings.

From Wiki:
Military honors


Kerry receiving a medal after serving in the Vietnam War.
During the night of December 2 and early morning of December 3, 1968, Kerry was in charge of a small boat operating near a peninsula north of Cam Ranh Bay together with a Swift boat (PCF-60). According to Kerry and the two crewmen who accompanied him that night, Patrick Runyon and William Zaladonis, they surprised a group of men unloading sampans at a river crossing, who began running and failed to obey an order to stop. As the men fled, Kerry and his crew opened fire on the sampans and destroyed them, then rapidly left. During this encounter, Kerry received a shrapnel wound in the left arm above the elbow. It was for this injury that Kerry received his first Purple Heart.[23]

Kerry received his second Purple Heart for a wound received in action on the Bồ Đề River on February 20, 1969. The plan had been for the Swift boats to be accompanied by support helicopters. On the way up the Bo De, however, the helicopters were attacked. As the Swift boats reached the Cửa Lớn River, Kerry's boat was hit by a RPG round, and a piece of shrapnel hit Kerry's left leg, wounding him. Thereafter, they had no more trouble, and reached the Gulf of Thailand safely. Kerry still has shrapnel in his left thigh because the doctors tending to him decided to remove the damaged tissue and close the wound with sutures rather than make a wide opening to remove the shrapnel.[24] Kerry received his second Purple Heart for this injury, but like several others wounded earlier that day, he did not lose any time off from duty.[25][26]

Eight days later, on February 28, 1969, came the events for which Kerry was awarded his Silver Star. On this occasion, Kerry was in tactical command of his Swift boat and two others in an eight boat formation. Their mission on the Duong Keo River included bringing a demolition team and dozens of South Vietnamese Marines to destroy enemy sampans, structures and bunkers as described in the story The Death Of PCF 43.[27] Running into an ambush, Kerry "directed the boats to turn to the beach and charge the Viet Cong positions" and he "expertly directed" his boat's fire and coordinated the deployment of the South Vietnamese troops, according to the original medal citation (signed by Admiral Zumwalt). Going a short distance farther, Kerry's boat was the target of an RPG round; as the boat hove to and beached, a Viet Cong ("VC") insurgent armed with a rocket launcher emerged from a spider hole and ran. While the boat's gunner opened fire, wounding the VC in the leg, and while the other boats approached and offered cover fire, Kerry jumped from the boat to chase the VC insurgent, subsequently killing him and capturing his loaded rocket launcher.[28][29][30]

Kerry's commanding officer, Lieutenant Commander George Elliott, joked to Douglas Brinkley in 2003 that he did not know whether to court-martial Kerry for beaching the boat without orders or give him a medal for saving the crew. Elliott recommended Kerry for the Silver Star, and Zumwalt flew into An Thoi to personally award medals to Kerry and the rest of the sailors involved in the mission. The Navy's account of Kerry's actions is presented in the original medal citation signed by Zumwalt. The engagement was documented in an after-action report, a press release written on March 1, 1969, and a historical summary dated March 17, 1969.[31]

On March 13, 1969, on the Bái Háp River, five Swift boats were returning to their base after performing an Operation Sealords mission to transport South Vietnamese troops from the garrison at Cái Nước and MIKE Force advisors for a raid on a Vietcong camp located on the Rach Dong Cung canal. Earlier in the day, Kerry received a slight shrapnel wound in the buttocks from blowing up a rice bunker. Debarking some but not all of the passengers at a small village, the boats approached a fishing weir; one group of boats went around to the left of the weir, hugging the shore, and a group with Kerry's PCF-94 boat went around to the right, along the shoreline. A mine was detonated directly beneath the lead boat, PCF-3, as it crossed the weir to the left, lifting PCF-3 "about 2-3 ft out of water".[32]

James Rassmann, a Green Beret advisor who was aboard PCF-94, was knocked overboard when, according to witnesses and the documentation of the event, a mine or rocket exploded close to the boat. According to the documentation for the event, Kerry's arm was injured when he was thrown against a bulkhead during the explosion. PCF 94 returned to the scene and Kerry rescued Rassmann from the water. Kerry received the Bronze Star Medal with "V" Device for Valor for his actions during this incident; he also received his third Purple Heart. (The Bronze Star may be awarded for acts of heroism, acts of merit, or meritorious service in a combat zone. Without the "V" the medal is awarded for exceptional service or achievement. With the "V" it is awarded for valor.)[33]

Controversy
Main article: John Kerry military service controversy
With the continuing controversy that had surrounded the military service of George W. Bush since the 2000 Presidential election (when he was accused of having used his father's political influence to gain entrance to the Texas Air National Guard, thereby protecting himself from conscription into the United States Army, and possible service in the Vietnam War), John Kerry's contrasting status as a decorated war hero posed a problem for Bush's re-election campaign, which Republicans sought to counter by calling Kerry's war record into question. As the presidential campaign of 2004 developed, approximately 250 members of a group called Swift Boat Veterans for Truth (SBVT, later renamed Swift Vets and POWs for Truth) opposed Kerry's campaign. The group held press conferences, ran ads and endorsed a book questioning Kerry's service record and his military awards. The group included several members of Kerry's unit, such as Larry Thurlow, who commanded a swift boat alongside of Kerry's,[39] and Stephen Gardner, who served on Kerry's boat.[40] The campaign inspired the widely used political pejorative 'swiftboating', to describe an unfair or untrue political attack.[41] Most of Kerry's former crewmates have stated that SBVT's allegations are false.[
 
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How John Kerry has anything to do with this thread I'll never know, but John Kerry lost my respect when he threw everyone under the bus. He could have protested the war without disparaging all Viet Nam veterans who were still in the fight at the time he was making his little speech to congress. This does not diminish his service and what he did in combat. It just diminishes him as a man and only shows he was a political opportunist from the jump.
 
How John Kerry has anything to do with this thread I'll never know, but John Kerry lost my respect when he threw everyone under the bus. He could have protested the war without disparaging all Viet Nam veterans who were still in the fight at the time he was making his little speech to congress. This does not diminish his service and what he did in combat. It just diminishes him as a man and only shows he was a political opportunist from the jump.
You weren't alive when the Vietnam war was going on were you? The sad thing is everything Kerry said was, and is true.

Here is the truth. And I hope you ill listen in to it in its entirety. John Kerry is a true American Hero.
 
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You weren't alive when the Vietnam war was going on were you? The sad thing is everything Kerry said was, and is true.

Here is the truth. And I hope you ill listen in to it in its entirety. John Kerry is a true American Hero.
Long as you've been a member here and evidently you haven't read many of my posts. Not only was I alive, I was there. Yes, I'm a veteran. USMC. Please don't lecture me about things of which you know nothing.
 
Long as you've been a member here and evidently you haven't read many of my posts. Not only was I alive, I was there. Yes, I'm a veteran. USMC. Please don't lecture me about things of which you know nothing.
You are I fool then. Because I lived through it was well. The difference between us is that I learned, you learned nothing.
 
You are I fool then. Because I lived through it was well. The difference between us is that I learned, you learned nothing.
What did you learn? The typical leftist move a painting with a broad brush, condemning everyone for the actions of a few. Were you one of the assholes, and there were many, that hated the guts of every military man? Yeah, there weren't many flags waving back then, was there? No welcome home boys. Nope, we were abandoned by everyone. Our government, our country, everyone.
Kerry made the easy move of protesting the war by jumping right into the whole anti-war movement and hate the military movement. He did it because he was a opportunist, just like I originally posted. He could have made his little speech without all the smearing of veterans, but he didn't. He didn't because the political winds of the time demanded hate and contempt for the military, so he played the tune that needed to be played in order to launch his career.
 
I don't hate the military. John Kerry doesn't hate the military. You don't hate the military. John Kerry and I hate the lying. You're OK with it. Let others make up there own minds whether they want to live a lie.
 
Too many in the American public blamed the troops for Vietnam, hated them, disrespected them. Instead of directing their anger (only) at those in charge.

Kinda like our socioeconomic minorities battling each other instead of, say, the 13 bankers.
 
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