Finally !!! ASK QUESTIONS, DEMAND ANSWERS.

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my point... and i have been on the scene of 2 aircrashes firsthand, is that you have no idea what you are talking about

a jetliner hitting the ground at fullspeed can leave any # of different crash patterns depending on such a variety of factors

i realize the black helicopter crew is alive and well.

carry on
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I'm sure your "witnessed" air crashes they were both of 757's with no bodies anywhere to be found and the total aircraft remains were in 5 gallon bucket. No engines, no wheels... did the crash look like a mortar explosion too?
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Hey whister, you were right all along, we found you your missing Boeing 757. It's all here in these 5 gallon buckets... Can we go home yet?

ok back to stage 1.
 
I saw an 8 seater twin engine wreckage on one occasion, you could have put most of what was left in the boot of your car.
The end of the wing tanks, bits of the rear ailerons, you could just make out what was left of the seat frames, a tyre, the rest was just scorch marks and ash.

Bits of it were found half a kilometre away, not much-obviously its a lot smaller, but the principle is the same i suppose.

Except the plane was stationary at the time-i heard the explosion, it was massive, it was surmised someone had TNT'd it.
 
Historically I have supported the Bush Adim. After watching the entire video with a rather skeptical bias I can only ask why are the questions not answered or answered so feebly?
The Popular Science rebuttals / answers are IMO simply lame.\ as were the other sites of similar explanations.

The lack of aircraft debris is most unsettling to my sensibilities, Or the lack of body parts or the usual surviving tail section? I have to agree - 6000# engines do not vaporize while the furniture remains intact at the site of the crafts impact. Luggage is tossed well out of the range of fire, ect.

So many questions - so little evidence. Back then I wrinkled my brow when I heard the Twin Towers mega tonnage of steel was being shipped overseas - when the US steel industry was struggling due to the world market vacuum China's demand was causing. Sorry but evidence tampering is not so far fetched - IMO. I'm sure local NY steel suppliers could have benefited from the deluge while NY was trying to regain its footing in commerce.

The stationary camera that starts to jiggle before the floors began collapsing is another very subtle and hard to deny anomalies that make me eager for substantive answers.

Frankly I guess B. Clinton's adim. just lacked the savvy and expertise the Bush's had to pull off the destruction. :eek:

Okay let me have it.
 
"So many questions, so little evidence" indeed.

If what im reading here is correct, no physical eveidence was examined, at all, or if so scarcely, because a politician thought computer models could do the job..........
What, the same computer models that assisted the space shuttle explosion?
Those computer models?

Nothing worthwhile could POSSIBLY be found in the rubble, so lets junk it and send it overseas pronto,
with no oversight, investigation or scrutiny whatsoever.


Yes, jolly good . Guilliani for president, 2008 hooray.
 
right... the bush administration - which is SO (supposedly) incompetent in so many other arenas can pull off a stunt that makes capricorn one (hint: that was fiction guys) look like greg brady doing UFO's from the attic.

cmon. there are a million holes in the conspiracy nut's theories, but first and foremost is that our govt. is NOT capable of pulling off such a massive conspiracy. we can deliver mail and do some other stuff half decently, but even aliens from zorkon couldn't do this.
 
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Okay let me have it.
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I've switched sides. I'm loyal to the administration now. The towers came down because there was a fire and we're gonna hunt Osama down dead or alive, like a wanted poster in Texas.

Some questions are best left unasked. I'm glad I'm not a conspiracy nut like you guys anymore.

JohnnyK:D
 
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right... the bush administration - which is SO (supposedly) incompetent in so many other arenas can pull off a stunt that makes capricorn one (hint: that was fiction guys) look like greg brady doing UFO's from the attic.

cmon. there are a million holes in the conspiracy nut's theories, but first and foremost is that our govt. is NOT capable of pulling off such a massive conspiracy. we can deliver mail and do some other stuff half decently, but even aliens from zorkon couldn't do this.
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Exactly! They are only capable of small conspiracies! That's all we need to know!

JohnnyK
 
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cmon. there are a million holes in the conspiracy nut's theories,
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Another hole is our President mispronounces some words sometimes. He probably can't even deliver a letter good.

JohnnyK
 
exactly, johnny.

imo, conspiracies have an exponential discovery nature

odds of being discovered increasing exponentially in relation to #people involved

the idea that we COULD pull this off is absurd.

setting aside issues of motivation
 
This is a difficult position for me - believe me. I'm not a conspirator kook yet:

Not a single suitcase thrown about in Pennsylvania.
Yet the fate of these real people passengers with their surviving spouses/families is a tough aspect to rationalize. Where are they if not dead, how do you get real people to abandon their lives - with no chance of the 'gig' being given up later? One defector is all it would take. Yep, Kook-dum is on the rickety fence I'd admit. Yet real answers are so elusive.

Scotty just beamed all dem big pieces of debris up - I recken'.

Fires sooo hot not even a single puddle of the two SIX TON engines cooled molten mo-jo ma-chine metal was to be found at the two sites, yet 184 (out of 189) of the dead at the Pentagon were still 'around' to be identified?

No evidence to examine = fewer questions.

and all that sudden 'put' trading and insurance shenanigans and travel warnings, smelling cordite...
WTF really went down!?
 
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