Finally a cop sticks up to blacks protesting police shootings

Here in Canada Brown would have been Tasered.

I think not. In Toronto the cops will shoot down a people on a public bus for looking at them funny.

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/10/2...-of-mentally-ill-man-pulling-knife-on-ttc-bus

and this is just one of many recent Canadian police shootings on buses.

Hint: Cops in Canada put up with a lot less shit than U.S. cops and are very quick to draw their guns.

Second hint - nearly no police departments in Canada have their cops carry Tasers. Tasers were approved for use in 2013, and many departments have shunned them.
 
I think not. In Toronto the cops will shoot down a people on a public bus for looking at them funny.

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/10/2...-of-mentally-ill-man-pulling-knife-on-ttc-bus

and this is just one of many recent Canadian police shootings on buses.

Hint: Cops in Canada put up with a lot less shit than U.S. cops and are very quick to draw their guns.

Second hint - nearly no police departments in Canada have their cops carry Tasers. Tasers were approved for use in 2013, and many departments have shunned them.
Actually, I've been there and done that. Brown would have been Tasered.
 
Actually, I've been there and done that. Brown would have been Tasered.

Been there, done that? You live in Toronto? Or where in Canada?

I am in year three of commuting to Toronto every week and working at a large bank.

None of the police I see here in downtown Toronto carry tasers. Nearly all the cops back in North Carolina do.

Keep in mind - as noted in the press - police in Toronto have not approved carrying tasers yet. Similar to most Canadian jurisdictions.
 
Been there, done that? You live in Toronto? Or where in Canada?

I am in year three of commuting to Toronto every week and working at a large bank.

None of the police I see here in downtown Toronto carry tasers. Nearly all the cops back in North Carolina do.

Keep in mind - as noted in the press - police in Toronto have not approved carrying tasers yet. Similar to most Canadian jurisdictions.
Yes, in Canada. I was a peace officer in Corrections, for over 10 years, and I worked with the RCMP, typically on escorts and pick ups. I have used the Taser, and I was tased as part of training when we adopted them. But I did not work with city cops, nor back East. You're right about them not taking crap, though, I've seen the Taser come out on the first syllable of non-compliance. They're used thousands of times a year in Canada, a country with 1/10th the US's population. So Brown probably would have been looking at one before he had taken three steps.

Your example of a Canadian police shooting is with a man with a knife.
 
PTSD doesn't stop with veterans. Most people who throw PTSD around as an excuse for someone's actions usually throw it in regards to a vet or a cop. PTSD is simply the result of any traumatic occurrence. You could have fell off a bike or have been hit by a car and have PTSD. Kids who are abused can have it. Someone who had a nasty accident skiing, or at bad sushi, or whatever. PTSD is just the response to a traumatic event.

Sure, veterans are more likely to have it than not because of what they experienced in war. But people point to it as if it is an excuse to behavior that is not acceptable - as a way out. As an excuse. It's not an excuse. Some people function better than others under stress, and some people have better mechanisms to deal with traumatic impressions that memories leave in their psyche. Some people require therapy, sometimes extensive, in order to cope. Some people never learn to cope and just manage the symptoms as best they can.

Most, and by most I mean the vast majority of those with some form of PTSD, deal with it so well you'd never even know they have it unless you were very close to them.

I've been diagnosed with it, and I've worked hard to remove the power those memories have over me. Most do exactly that.

Anyway, this was more in response to the guy you were answering - not you, Leap.


After Fortuneteller's comment, I'll probably throw him on ignore with the rest of the lunatics. PTSD cases don't go around mowing people down. And agreed, PTSD can derive from numerous experiences. I dealt with it after Desert Storm, and of course, OIF later in life. Veterans are the "gold standard" for PTSD, but can be anyone. I still have trouble over the suicide by cop I had thrown on me when I was working my way through college with a State Police agency. (Was forced to shoot, had no choice.) None the less, Veterans such as my WWII Grandfather came home and drank. My Dad was US Army, Vietnam, but didn't drink. Both had what was then called "shell shock." No one talked about it, and the "medicine" used to sleep out the nightmares was alcohol. I thought I could do the same*, and after it became a 24/7 thing vs just sleeping medicine, gave up the booze, and take 1/2 Clonazepam PRN- when necessary. The symptoms on my end are anxiety, such as heart rate through the roof, sweating, thinking a heart attack is coming, etc., It's NOT an anger thing as the libs would love to portray it as. It's more of a nuisance than some kind of cancer people have been lead to believe. Is very manageable, and if you're like me, only have the occasional episode of anxiety.

* The then Wife finding me in the garage under her car at night was one of the reasons I started with alcohol to sleep. Being asleep, and thinking I'm outside the wire, and we're about to take incoming, and at the time, under the car in the garage seemed about the right place to go. Am still glad she didn't decide to drive out looking for me!:eek: lol
 
I think not. In Toronto the cops will shoot down a people on a public bus for looking at them funny.

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/10/2...-of-mentally-ill-man-pulling-knife-on-ttc-bus

and this is just one of many recent Canadian police shootings on buses.

Hint: Cops in Canada put up with a lot less shit than U.S. cops and are very quick to draw their guns.

Second hint - nearly no police departments in Canada have their cops carry Tasers. Tasers were approved for use in 2013, and many departments have shunned them.

I don't agree with the taser at all myself. When I was a new Trooper, I wore a sidearm, two magazines, cuff pouch, and Capstun spray. That was literally it. I had a riot baton in the front seat, an M16 in the trunk (bad location!), and Remington 870 locked with push button up front. We were trained to be nice as hell, and if someone was downright mean, we'd be mean as hell. We'd use hands on vs this standing back, and tasing people garbage. Of course, that was then.. Today's Police Officer is in a different environment, and has a totally different way of being, which is sad. Hell, I have a badge that's stamped State Police "Former Member," and get pulled for 4 miles UNDER the speed limit, and get not one, but two tickets by the nice female city cop. I'm as nice as the day is long, she had my badge case in hand, and nope, not a blink as she threw the fines my way...
 
Been there, done that? You live in Toronto? Or where in Canada?

I am in year three of commuting to Toronto every week and working at a large bank.

None of the police I see here in downtown Toronto carry tasers. Nearly all the cops back in North Carolina do.

Keep in mind - as noted in the press - police in Toronto have not approved carrying tasers yet. Similar to most Canadian jurisdictions.

As someone who grew up in toronto, I can confirm what you are saying.

One other thing I will point out is that Black people living in Toronto are far different from black people living in the states. I grew up in a predominantly black/ethnic neighborhood, and most of my friends growing up were a different color than me.

The types of shit that people say in the states never even came up between us, I dont know if this is because most of the black people i hung around with were immigrants within 1-2 generations, or if Canadians genuinely do treat black people better, but there was no talk amongst my friends about how they were oppressed, infact most of them simply felt lucky to be here. Race wasnt even anything that we brought up amongst each other unless it was to make a joke once in a while. My best friend who is a Muslim had a Christmas tree up at christmas time, because his parents wanted him to get the same experience the rest of Canadians got, they were still devout muslims, but they tried to adhere to some canadian traditions to fit in.

This is much different than the kinds of immigrants being created in the states where liberals have preached to them that our culture is wrong, and that we are the ones who should change to accomodate THEM instead of vice versa.

You always see these dumb fuck liberals talking about how we need to have a conversation about race, but from what ive witnessed in my short time in the states, all liberals EVER want to talk about is race, and the racial dynamic of shit. If i ever hear a liberal after today saying "We need to have an honest conversation about race," I going to punch them, you can literally go to the comment section of anything on the internet the past couple days and all that comes up is race, and im not just talking about news sites, im talking about football sites, and all kinds of other stuff that has nothing to do with the michael brown case.
 
After Fortuneteller's comment, I'll probably throw him on ignore with the rest of the lunatics.

Wow. Sorry I raised your anxiety level with the PTSD idea. It was just a thought okay? If you don't think Police officers can get PTSD from working the job then whatever. If you don't think that could be a possible reason cops are shooting and killing more than they used to then that is okay too. Glad to hear the Klonopin is working for you vs. the 24/7 alcohol trip. Hope you don't have to ever come down off that Klonopin because it's a real bitch.
 
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