Fight!

Do not watch the following vid if you are easily disturbed. It is absolutely savage. (The most horrific elements have been blurred, a kid is beaten to death)

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ebc_1254238610

Folks, the above video is what the media never wants us to see. Chicago "schoolchildren" or "youths" going savage outside a Chicago public school. THIS type of behavior is what is really going on in Chicago schools. This is why in one weekend, 20+ "youths" can be killed by gunfire in non-white communities. Anyone ever talked to a (idealist) inner city public school teacher? They live in fear. Death threats. Intimidation. Students that get up and beat the shYt out of eachother in the middle of class. They do not last long.

Now, genetics is not the only factor. However, as I have stated genetics is a large determinant of:

-Aptitude
-Personality
-Aggression level
-empathy

If you watched the vid, you saw human beings acting like savage animals.

It is true parenting is huge. Yet what parents pass on genetically is just as important as what they pass on via parenting skills.

Welfare has created a fast breeding underclass of the very worst kind, made up of the very lowest in terms of intelligence and most all other factors. It is true "skin color" is not the problem. That is foolishness. Yet, anyone who does not see race as a factor is simply ignoring reality.

I read a book once by a former policeman and prosecutor. In it he discusses the differences between "white trash" and "black trash" criminals. Really informative.
 
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What? Dude, how do they look poor to you? They all dress better then I do. Seriously man, you are one judgmental prick. Whatever happened to don't judge a book by it's cover? Why are liberals so damn judgmental? Honestly man, trust me when I say this, you cannot judge someone's wealth by their clothes. I dress like a bum. Most my friends do.
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I might be judgemental, but it's not a function of my politics. Anyway, odds are they are not wealthy, though of course only a fool would bet their entire bankroll on any one person, which would basically be "judging a book by its cover".

As for your dress choice, here's a two-step trick I learned long ago: 1) buy nice clothes, 2) wear them. Wherever you are, whenever you get put in the spotlight, you look great!
 
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I might be judgemental, but it's not a function of my politics. Anyway, odds are they are not wealthy, though of course only a fool would bet their entire bankroll on any one person, which would basically be "judging a book by its cover".

As for your dress choice, here's a two-step trick I learned long ago: 1) buy nice clothes, 2) wear them. Wherever you are, whenever you get put in the spotlight, you look great!
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I'm not saying they are wealthy, I'm saying they probably not living in poverty like you suggest. My guess is they are just run of the mill working people like most of us. Which does NOT explain their behavior which goes back to my original point.

As for your clothing suggestion, I don't try to impress people. I let my character and integrity speak for me, not my clothes. We must have been raised differently. Thank God I didn't have liberal parents.
 
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I'm not saying they are wealthy, I'm saying they probably not living in poverty like you suggest. My guess is they are just run of the mill working people like most of us. Which does NOT explain their behavior which goes back to my original point.
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Like I say, poverty is a relative term. We do know that poor societies, with lesser stratification have less per capita violence than poor, stratified societies (no, it's not 100%, only parenting has that kind of explanatory certainty). The concept of relative deprivation, a trait unique to primates (and brought to a fever pitch by Man) enters here.

Man does have his symbolic side so he gets two fears: physical death and social death. In the more advanced societies I think social death is probably everyone's chief day-to-day worry.
 
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Do not watch the following vid if you are easily disturbed. It is absolutely savage. (The most horrific elements have been blurred, a kid is beaten to death)

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ebc_1254238610

Folks, the above video is what the media never wants us to see. Chicago "schoolchildren" or "youths" going savage outside a Chicago public school. THIS type of behavior is what is really going on in Chicago schools. This is why in one weekend, 20+ "youths" can be killed by gunfire in non-white communities. Anyone ever talked to a (idealist) inner city public school teacher? They live in fear. Death threats. Intimidation. Students that get up and beat the shYt out of eachother in the middle of class. They do not last long.

Now, genetics is not the only factor. However, as I have stated genetics is a large determinant of:

-Aptitude
-Personality
-Aggression level
-empathy

If you watched the vid, you saw human beings acting like savage animals.

It is true parenting is huge. Yet what parents pass on genetically is just as important as what they pass on via parenting skills.

Welfare has created a fast breeding underclass of the very worst kind, made up of the very lowest in terms of intelligence and most all other factors. It is true "skin color" is not the problem. That is foolishness. Yet, anyone who does not see race as a factor is simply ignoring reality.

I read a book once by a former policeman and prosecutor. In it he discusses the differences between "white trash" and "black trash" criminals. Really informative.
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Wow, that video ruined my day. That's really sad.
 
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Wow, that video ruined my day. That's really sad.
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Is it as bad as the pics and vids out of Auschwitz? I simply can't watch that stuff. You want to just "give up" on Man.
 
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Like I say, poverty is a relative term. We do know that poor societies, with lesser stratification have less per capita violence than poor, stratified societies (no, it's not 100%, only parenting has that kind of explanatory certainty). The concept of relative deprivation, a trait unique to primates (and brought to a fever pitch by Man) enters here.

Man does have his symbolic side so he gets two fears: physical death and social death. In the more advanced societies I think social death is probably everyone's chief day-to-day worry.
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Ricter, there you go again. I see your words but you still are not saying anything. Let's try this. The girl in the BK video, the one in the bikini. Walk me through this. Give me your theory as to why she is behaving the way she is based on your theories. I'm all ears. Be specific. You speak in these broad general tones where you get to hedge everything you say and you are never specific. Walk me through it Ricter. So according to you, based on no real evidence, this black girl in BK, because she is poor and was waiting too long for her god damn burger, she decided to attack the girl behind the counter and trash the restaurant. And she did this because she is poor. And she did this in front of her children setting a wonderful example for them when they grow up I'm sure.

I'm all ears Ricter.
 
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Ricter, there you go again. I see your words but you still are not saying anything. Let's try this. The girl in the BK video, the one in the bikini. Walk me through this. Give me your theory as to why she is behaving the way she is based on your theories. I'm all ears. Be specific. You speak in these broad general tones where you get to hedge everything you say and you are never specific. Walk me through it Ricter. So according to you, based on no real evidence, this black girl in BK, because she is poor and was waiting too long for her god damn burger, she decided to attack the girl behind the counter and trash the restaurant. And she did this because she is poor. And she did this in front of her children setting a wonderful example for them when they grow up I'm sure.

I'm all ears Ricter.
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Perhaps we're arguing past each other, as they say. You want to explain the behavior of an individual, and I'm giving explanations for the behavior of populations. This just occurred to me, and it's a common reason for arguments that never end.

You'll need to look to psychoanalysis for your answer, I think; I can only give you probabilities from my perspective.
 
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Perhaps we're arguing past each other, as they say. You want to explain the behavior of an individual, and I'm giving explanations for the behavior of populations. This just occurred to me, and it's a common reason for arguments that never end.

You'll need to look to psychoanalysis for your answer, I think; I can only give you probabilities from my perspective.
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So that's pretty convenient. That means we can't actually discuss any of the videos in this thread. That's a nice out. Shouldn't you be able to use your theories to explain some aspect of these videos?

Even on a broader scale, being poor does not cause one to act like an animal. Let's be specific about this. Poor people are forced to do many things, some things that perhaps many of us would think are immoral or unethical or even in bad taste. I want to address the barbaric animal behavior. Why is it that just being poor, and again, I do not believe any of these people are poor in the videos. I'm not saying they are rich, I'm just saying they probably are just like most of the population with the exception of their skin color.

I'm sure you have been poor in your life Ricter. Did being poor turn you into a barbaric animal? Did it?
 
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