Lol...when I posted that I agreed with Dest, I almost added that Fred would probably question
It's open season when you derail on keto or fasting. Who's going to count every calorie with any semblance of accuracy? Abstinence is binary.
Fasting as 'an amazing way of life'.
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It's open season when you derail on keto or fasting. Who's going to count every calorie with any semblance of accuracy? Abstinence is binary.
i cannot do zero carb keto nor would I even want to try that. I don't recommend either as Lunch and Dinner should have a side of veggies and plenty of low net carb choices if you don't mind farting like a tuba.
When I feel the best is when I aim for 50 net carbs max. I only have to count the carbs really and makes life easier daily. Also eliminates a lot of trigger foods but then I give myself an off day or two. This was the approach the worked wonders but I got off it and no so excited to get back.
It becomes quite easy to do when I get into my routine at home. Outside the house it is a bee ach.
I could eat grilled chicken or steak and a side of kale or Brussels sprouts 5 days a week if it was not me having to prepare and cook it
.Best I every felt was last year when I was in or almost at a ketosis for a couple or weeks and playing soccer and hoops. Was like the gas tank never got empty. Trying to get back there if LIFE would just shut the fuck up for a while haha.
I never tested myself daily but you could feel it when you were humming and when you got off.
i cannot do zero carb keto nor would I even want to try that. I don't recommend either as Lunch and Dinner should have a side of veggies and plenty of low net carb choices if you don't mind farting like a tuba.
When I feel the best is when I aim for 50 net carbs max. I only have to count the carbs really and makes life easier daily. Also eliminates a lot of trigger foods but then I give myself an off day or two. This was the approach the worked wonders but I got off it and no so excited to get back.
It becomes quite easy to do when I get into my routine at home. Outside the house it is a bee ach.
I could eat grilled chicken or steak and a side of kale or Brussels sprouts 5 days a week if it was not me having to prepare and cook it
Best I every felt was last year when I was in or almost at a ketosis for a couple or weeks and playing soccer and hoops. Was like the gas tank never got empty. Trying to get back there if LIFE would just shut the fuck up for a while haha.
I never tested myself daily but you could feel it when you were humming and when you got off.
I juiced kale and ginger while on keto. IIRC my carbs were <8/day.
That stuff never makes it through my door. The only time I ever touch chips and the like is when it's offered when I'm visiting someone. Admittedly, I usually have a bit more than I wish I did, but only by a small margin of error. Even when I'm invited to dinner I never show up hungry, for two reasons. First, I tend to overeat when I'm hungry; it almost becomes an emotional experience. And, second, most people I know tend to eat more fattening foods than I do. So not showing up too hungry helps with portion control.
Yeah I dont have the stones to hit that level haha. I probably should initially given I need to work on a target weight that requires 25 lb.s off.
I am at 8 net carbs as of now and not really hungry so we will see how rest of the days goes. Nighttime is where the snackfucka comes out.
That is Dest's point that that abstinence ("that stuff never made it through my door") is easier than moderation for most.
Many foods cannot be moderated so better to eliminate them initially until you can bring them back in controlled. Still it is easier for me to not eat sweets for a while than try and get away with 3 Oreos. (3 fricking Oreos as a serving size... who the @#$% are they kidding).
Dest, you're the science guy. Please have a look at Dean Ornish's TED talk when you have the time and tell us what you think. I posted it earlier in another thread:
I'm assuming keto, paleo and Atkins are largely interchangeable. Would that be right?
T-day was rough. Wife and her mom are gourmet and the gravy was amazing. I went off an (almost) two month keto due to the mashed potatoes and stuffing. I don't even want the turkey. We had an Amaretto cake and I may have eaten 90% of it. I told the family that Steph's mom binged on it. 100% false.
Then the potato pancakes for another week.