Fast & Furious assault rifle was owned by El Chapo

‘Fast & Furious’ rifle capable of taking down helicopter found in 'El Chapo' cache
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...rchased-through-fast-and-furious-program.html

By William La Jeunesse

Rifle found at 'El Chapo' hideout from Fast & Furious probe

A .50-caliber rifle found at Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman’s hideout in Mexico was funneled through the gun-smuggling investigation known as Fast and Furious, sources confirmed Tuesday to Fox News.

A .50-caliber is a massive rifle that can stop a car or, as it was intended, take down a helicopter.

After the raid on Jan. 8 in the city of Los Mochis that killed five of his men and wounded one Mexican marine, officials found a number of weapons inside the house where Guzman was staying, including the rifle, officials said.


When agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives checked serial numbers of the eight weapons found in his possession, they found one of the two .50-caliber weapons traced back to the ATF program, sources said.

Federal officials told Fox News they are not sure how many of the weapons seized from Guzman’s house actually originated in the U.S. and where they were purchased, but are investigating.

Out of the roughly 2,000 weapons sold through Fast and Furious, 34 were .50-caliber rifles that can take down a helicopter, according to officials.

Federal law enforcement sources told Fox News that ‘El Chapo’ would put his guardsmen on hilltops to be on guard for Mexican police helicopters that would fly through valleys conducting raids. The sole purpose of the guardsmen would be to shoot down those helicopters, sources said.


The Fast and Furious operation involved federal agents allowing criminals to buy guns with the intention of tracking them.

Instead, agents from the ATF lost track of 1,400 of the 2,000 guns involved in the sting operation.

The operation allowed criminals to buy guns in Phoenix-area shops with the intention of tracking them once they made their way into Mexico.

The operation became a major distraction for the Obama administration as Republicans in Congress conducted a series of inquiries into how the Justice Department allowed such an operation to happen.

Former Attorney General Eric Holder was held in contempt after he refused to divulge documents for a congressional investigation into the matter.

This is the third time a weapon from the Fast and Furious program has been found at a high-profile Mexican crime scene.

 
Ironic that one of the most dangerous men in the world ends up owning a helicopter assault rifle given to him by Holder at the Department of Justice. The irony.
 
Obviously the article is sensationalist. The 50bmg rifles are not made for "taking down helicopters" ; anyone that has ever fired one knows this. A single shot rifle weighing up to 30 pounds empty and 40 pounds with a full magazine is not made for taking down helicopters. "Could it"? Yes, a very lucky shot that actually hit a vital component might take down a helicopter. Same thing with a .30 caliber rifle.
 
Obviously the article is sensationalist. The 50bmg rifles are not made for "taking down helicopters" ; anyone that has ever fired one knows this. A single shot rifle weighing up to 30 pounds empty and 40 pounds with a full magazine is not made for taking down helicopters. "Could it"? Yes, a very lucky shot that actually hit a vital component might take down a helicopter. Same thing with a .30 caliber rifle.

How do you know they were single shot? Barrett makes a semi auto version.

Obviously the rifles were not "designed" to take down choppers, but no one disputes that they could. They are primarily long range rifles. Extremely long range.

They are a very dangerous weapon in the wrong hands and the fact the ATF allowed them to go to drug gangs is mindboggling. It was bad enough to allow AR's or AK's, but this is a different order of magnitude.
 
How do you know they were single shot? Barrett makes a semi auto version.

Obviously the rifles were not "designed" to take down choppers, but no one disputes that they could. They are primarily long range rifles. Extremely long range.

They are a very dangerous weapon in the wrong hands and the fact the ATF allowed them to go to drug gangs is mindboggling. It was bad enough to allow AR's or AK's, but this is a different order of magnitude.

You can pick up an M95 on the open market for about $7k. If El Chapo wanted one, it'd be pretty easy to get one.
 
How do you know they were single shot? Barrett makes a semi auto version.

Obviously the rifles were not "designed" to take down choppers, but no one disputes that they could. They are primarily long range rifles. Extremely long range.

They are a very dangerous weapon in the wrong hands and the fact the ATF allowed them to go to drug gangs is mindboggling. It was bad enough to allow AR's or AK's, but this is a different order of magnitude.
OK. :banghead: Wrong termonolgy. I should have said 50 bmg rifles are difficult to shoot rapidly. Yes, Barrett makes a semi-auto version however it would be difficult to throw multiple rounds at a helicopter accurately even with the magazine full. You would have to find the target in your scope after each round. BTW- Barrett is located about 10 miles from my house. They opened a gunstore next to the factory a few years ago. https://www.theoutpostarmory.com/
If you ever find yourself on I-24 south of Murfreesboro, TN it is worth a visit.
 
You can pick up an M95 on the open market for about $7k. If El Chapo wanted one, it'd be pretty easy to get one.

They could buy ARs easily too, but the gun stores were blocking obvious straw purchasers. So the geniuses who came up with Fast and Furious told the gun stores to go ahead with the sales. My point is, as insane as Fast and Furious was, it was orders of magnitude more insane when .50 cal rifles are introduced into the mix.

You have to wonder if maybe they were hoping someone would use one for something awful and then they could use the publicity to ban them or all assault rifles.
 
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