Factcheck: No, Biden did not confuse George W. Bush and Donald Trump

[exGOPer]

That will happen at some point in the future.

President's cannot be indicted, Trump already told you that.

 

[exGOPer]

Repubs all ready packed it with conservatives and it is glorrriousss. If libtards pack it, we will pack it again.

Let them, how would that be different if dumb Cons weren't packing it? We are back to square one which is good enough. How would Cons undo the extra states though?

 

[LacesOut]

We will see how the grapes taste in a week, please be around. New states, packed courts, its gonnna be glorrriousss.

This what people who hate America pray for...

 

[gaussian]

good, the GOP has none so the dems can bring back the balance by having none either.

Obama tried to slam a candidate in during the lame duck session and failed because the repubs had control of the boat. This was made possible by your boy Harry Reid implementing the nuclear option. Tortoise-man fired back and extended it to supreme court justices. Reid let the cat out of the bag, tortoise man strapped a fucking rocket to it and sent it into the sun. That cat will never come back to this side of the galaxy now.

This is the biggest cope I've seen from nearly every democrat I've ever talked to. It's like you casually ignore all of 2011, 2013, 2015, and 2016 because it's convenient.

With all this discussion of court packing the dems clearly haven't learned opening a pandora's box your opponents will leverage against you when you lose the house/senate is a fucking terrible idea. But democrats are extremely shortsighted in general so I'm not surprised at all they think "bringing back balance" by stacking the courts and implementing absurd new rules will NEVER come back to bite them. We are quickly headed into one party rule and your boy Reid was the pale rider.

Repubs all ready packed it with conservatives and it is glorrriousss. If libtards pack it, we will pack it again.

We won't get it back. The Democrats are vying for 1 party rule. We are in completely uncharted waters.

Best case - Trump wins, Senate stays red, House stays Blue

Ok case 1 - Trump wins, Senate goes blue, house goes red

Ok case 2 - Trump loses, Senate stays red, house stays blue. With supreme court control and control of the senate Biden will be incapable of doing anything.

Democrat Monarchy by 2022 case - Trump loses, Senate goes blue, house goes blue. Full blown power grab, supreme court undoes the 2 term election laws and rewrites chunks of the constitution erasing 2/3rds of the bill of rights, Biden dies after his 3rd term at age 200, Kamala takes over and runs America for 50 years. The entire structure of America undone in order to "save democracy". We all learn mandarin and our leader in 2060 is Chinese.

Republican Monarchy by 2022 case - Trump wins, Senate stays red, house goes red. See above but instead Trump has 3 terms, then his son, then other son, then his daughter. We descend into a traditionalist republic and we all are speaking Russian and stoning each other for apostasy by 2060.

 

[BeautifulStranger]

Fact Checker
Analysis
No, Biden did not confuse George W. Bush and Donald Trump

“Joe Biden confuses President Trump with George W. Bush: ‘because of who I’m running against … George, ah, George’”

— Republican National Committee rapid response director Steve Guest, in a misleading tweet, on Oct. 25

The video clip that Republican National Committee rapid response director Steve Guest tweeted late Sunday night seemed to be the stuff of opposition researcher’s dreams. Just 27 seconds long, it appeared to show Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden criticize former president George W. Bush as the person he is running against — not President Trump. The snippet from Biden’s Oct. 25 “I Will Vote” concert seemed to be evidence of a nasty theory the Trump campaign has been pushing for months: Joe Biden is senile.

Fox News, the “Today” show and the Daily Mail among others all picked up the story. Trump tweeted about the supposed debacle, saying: “Joe Biden called me George yesterday. Couldn’t remember my name. Got some help from the anchor to get him through the interview. The Fake News Cartel is working overtime to cover it up!” Guest’s tweet had more than a million views as of 2 p.m. Monday.

Still, most things that appear to be too good to be true are just that and, as our colleague David Weigel originally pointed out, this clip was no exception.

The Facts
The “I Will Vote” concert was hosted by comedian George Lopez and political commentator Ana Navarro. The segment begins with what looks like a fancy Zoom call. Navarro and Lopez are each in a separate frame, as are the Bidens and a sign language interpreter.

Lopez asks Biden why undecided Americans should vote and vote for him. As Biden begins his answer, the frames of Navarro and Lopez are dropped from the screen.

“First of all, the reason they should vote is there is a lot on, on the ballot this year. This is the most consequen — not because I’m running but because of who I am running against — this is the most consequential election in a long, long, long time and the character of the country, in my view, is literally on the ballot,” Biden responds. “What kind of country are we going to be?”

Then, he stutters, “Four more years of George, uh, George, uh, he, uh, are going to find ourselves in position where if uh Trump gets elected uh we are going to be uh, going to be in a different world.”

Or was it: “Four more years, uh, George, uh, George, uh, we, uh.” It’s hard to tell.

With his caption, Guest answers an unspoken question of just who is the “George,” suggesting that Biden confused President Trump with former president George W. Bush. His evidence is this exact clip with one important tweak. The clip Guest tweeted begins when Biden says, “This is the most,” but after Navarro and Lopez were dropped from the screen, making it appear as though Biden is simply addressing the audience.

By beginning the clip after the moderators were removed from the screen, viewers have no idea that Biden could have been referring to (George) Lopez who had originally asked the question.

“He was addressing George Lopez, the interviewer, as is a common practice,” Biden spokesman Andrew Bates said. “That is, unless, like Donald Trump, you blow a gasket and storm out because you can’t stomach being fact-checked.

Guest defended his clip job without apology. He sent The Fact Checker this statement:

“This isn’t a ‘fact check.’ It’s the Washington Post doing the Biden campaign’s bidding to cover up what Biden actually said. Biden was talking about ‘four more years’ of President Trump and said the name ‘George’ instead. His wife is mouthing ‘Trump’ next to him in an attempt to save him and remind him who is currently president. Which explanation makes more sense? That Biden was expressing concern for 4 years of George Lopez as President!? Or does it make more sense that the same Joe Biden who couldn’t remember Mitt Romney’s name or the office he is running for mistakenly referred to a past Republican administration instead of the current one? It’s obviously the latter.”
We will note that there is no evidence of Jill Biden mouthing anything while Biden is speaking, unless you have an overactive imagination. She is pursing her lips in the clip.

After we contacted “Today” about the issue, the show added an editor’s note to its report, acknowledging: “The fact that Biden was talking with George Lopez was relevant and helpful context that should have been included in the original report.”

The Pinocchio Test
As we have well documented this campaign season, the Trump campaign and the RNC are eager purveyors of misleading and out-of-context clips. They earn lots of clicks, which is perhaps the point, but it’s pretty childish behavior. After all, Trump makes plenty of verbal slips, too. (Just ask his former national security adviser, “Michael Bolton.”)

Guest’s tweet is a classic example of the isolation, according to The Fact Checker’s Guide to Manipulated Video. Starting the clip when the moderators were no longer on the screen, he eliminated key context by removing the most obvious George that Biden could be referring to — George Lopez — and filled in the gap with an answer better suited to the Trump campaign’s unproven narrative of Biden’s faltering mental acuity.

Guest earns Four Pinocchios for his efforts.

Yes, Biden brain farted George Bush instead of Donald Trump with his clear “Four more of George...” statement. While I don’t believe Joe has dementia, he certainly does have age-relatied cognitive decline as shown by him losing his train of thought at least three times during the final Presidential debate versus one time by Trump. Further, if Joe had serious dementia, physical and emotional manifestations should be evident.

Attached below is a YouTube video of Biden’s statement:

Interesting Democrats, the media, social media trolls, and their partisan fact checkers felt a need to respond to claims concerning Joe’s alleged dementia, however.


From: https://www.dementiacarecentral.com/aboutdementia/facts/stages/
Global Deterioration Scale (CGS) / Reisberg Scale
Diagnosis Stage Signs and Symptoms Expected Duration of Stage

No Dementia Stage 1:
No Cognitive Decline – Normal function
– No memory loss
– People with NO dementia are considered in Stage 1 N/A

No Dementia Stage 2:
Very Mild Cognitive Decline – Forgets names
– Misplaces familiar objects
– Symptoms not evident to loved ones or doctors Unknown

No Dementia Stage 3:
Mild Cognitive Decline – Increased forgetfulness
– Slight difficulty concentrating
– Decreased work performance
– Gets lost more frequently
– Difficulty finding right words
– Loved ones begin to notice Average duration of this stage is between 2 years and 7 years.

Early-stage Stage 4:
Moderate Cognitive Decline – Difficulty concentrating
– Forgets recent events
– Cannot manage finances
– Cannot travel alone to new places
– Difficulty completing tasks
– In denial about symptoms
– Socialization problems: Withdraw from friends or family
– Physician can detect cognitive problems Average duration of this stage is 2 years.

Mid-Stage Stage 5:
Moderately Severe Cognitive Decline – Major memory deficiencies
– Need assistance with ADLs (dressing, bathing, etc.)
– Forgets details like address or phone number
– Doesn’t know time or date
– Doesn’t know where they are Average duration of this stage is 1.5 years.

Mid-Stage Stage 6:
Severe Cognitive Decline (Middle Dementia) – Cannot carry out ADLs without help
– Forgets names of family members
– Forgets recent events
– Forgets major events in past
– Difficulty counting down from 10
– Incontinence (loss of bladder control)
– Difficulty speaking
– Personality and emotional changes
– Delusions
– Compulsions
– Anxiety Average duration of this stage is 2.5 years

Late-Stage Stage 7:
Very Severe Cognitive Decline (Late Dementia) – Cannot speak or communicate
– Require help with most activities
– Loss of motor skills
– Cannot walk Average duration of this stage is 1.5 to 2.5 years


Now if I can find the car keys, I’ll be all right. What was it I wanted anyway? Never mind, the stores are all closed now anyway! Stage three for me, beginning in my teenage years!

 

[Cuddles]

Obama tried to slam a candidate in during the lame duck session and failed because the repubs had control of the boat. This was made possible by your boy Harry Reid implementing the nuclear option. Tortoise-man fired back and extended it to supreme court justices. Reid let the cat out of the bag, tortoise man strapped a fucking rocket to it and sent it into the sun. That cat will never come back to this side of the galaxy now.

This is the biggest cope I've seen from nearly every democrat I've ever talked to. It's like you casually ignore all of 2011, 2013, 2015, and 2016 because it's convenient.

With all this discussion of court packing the dems clearly haven't learned opening a pandora's box your opponents will leverage against you when you lose the house/senate is a fucking terrible idea. But democrats are extremely shortsighted in general so I'm not surprised at all they think "bringing back balance" by stacking the courts and implementing absurd new rules will NEVER come back to bite them. We are quickly headed into one party rule and your boy Reid was the pale rider.



We won't get it back. The Democrats are vying for 1 party rule. We are in completely uncharted waters.

Best case - Trump wins, Senate stays red, House stays Blue

Ok case 1 - Trump wins, Senate goes blue, house goes red

Ok case 2 - Trump loses, Senate stays red, house stays blue. With supreme court control and control of the senate Biden will be incapable of doing anything.

Democrat Monarchy by 2022 case - Trump loses, Senate goes blue, house goes blue. Full blown power grab, supreme court undoes the 2 term election laws and rewrites chunks of the constitution erasing 2/3rds of the bill of rights, Biden dies after his 3rd term at age 200, Kamala takes over and runs America for 50 years. The entire structure of America undone in order to "save democracy". We all learn mandarin and our leader in 2060 is Chinese.

Republican Monarchy by 2022 case - Trump wins, Senate stays red, house goes red. See above but instead Trump has 3 terms, then his son, then other son, then his daughter. We descend into a traditionalist republic and we all are speaking Russian and stoning each other for apostasy by 2060.

except the nuclear option was not implemented for SCOTUS, but you know that.
except the GOP obstructed record judicial appointments unlike anything seen in the history of the US forcing the "nuclear options" but you know that.
except government doesn't just stop for 2 yrs for losing the senate unless obstructionism to force a dem loss is the point, but you know that.

No one that matters honestly gives a flying fuck if SCOTUS is expanded, make it 101 judges, it becomes harder to game it with partisan hacks at that point.

 

[Wallet]

except the nuclear option was not implemented for SCOTUS, but you know that.
except the GOP obstructed record judicial appointments unlike anything seen in the history of the US forcing the "nuclear options" but you know that.
except government doesn't just stop for 2 yrs for losing the senate unless obstructionism to force a dem loss is the point, but you know that.

No one honestly gives a flying fuck if SCOTUS is expanded, make it 101 judges, it becomes harder to game it with partisan hacks at that point.

Actually the majority of Americans oppose packing or changing the court.

 

[Cuddles]

Actually the majority of Americans oppose packing or changing the court.

corrected statement, the GOP doesn't care what Americans think anyway:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewal...oppose-court-packing-poll-finds/#7644afc04e49

https://news.gallup.com/poll/243611/disapprove-approve-2017-tax-cuts.aspx

 

[Bugenhagen]

Actually the majority of Americans oppose packing or changing the court.

The majority are left leaning, they will be forced to change their mind once the country goes full Taliban.

If Trump was packing the court you would be cheering a necessary power move.

 

[smallfil]

Repubs all ready packed it with conservatives and it is glorrriousss. If libtards pack it, we will pack it again.

We are not done yet. Lots of vacancies in the lower and appellate courts still needs to be filled with more conservative judges. Time to neuter the extreme liberal activist judges fighting President Donald Trump on all his policies. It is a waste of tax dollars, what they are doing only to be overruled by the US Supreme Court. When, they become an insignificant minority, that would end their BS.