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since I am 78 and have been trading an producing documents for 53 years, it just isn't possible for me to do the Details of every Q and A that comes along. I sought another alternative a suite of 5 books. At some point, the personal risks I am encountering eclipsed the possibility of giving away those books (The IRS has registered an objection as well since they have proven to themselves there must be an ulterior motive. They, among other items included all pages (over 100) of an ET thread under one of hypostomus's aliases as proof). So I gave up fighting city hall so to speak.
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I sought another alternative a suite of 5 books. At some point, the personal risks I am encountering eclipsed the possibility of giving away those books (The IRS has registered an objection as well since they have proven to themselves there must be an ulterior motive. They, among other items included all pages (over 100) of an ET thread under one of hypostomus's aliases as proof). So I gave up fighting city hall so to speak.
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Its neat to see so many people posting on trends and their containers. As has been reitierated by most: trend lines keep changing and only so often do you get one that works.
Certainly there is an answer that cures all these inaccuracies.
trends occur on all fractals cuncurrently. they build in a fixed ratio of 3:1.
Take the post of the person who did three parts to get a slower short; then he did three parts to get a long slower trend. But he enclosed the short and long with a heavy line that skipped drawing the RTL and LTL of what I just mentioned. Tthe ends of his bold line connect the wrong things together as a consequence.
none on this comes from annecdotal reasoning; deduction is used to get the singular pattern of trending in markets.
start with the finest size (ticks) and build your system from there.
On any chart adjacent bars allow you to build.
you find out two things in the process: You have to deal with the volatility changes in channels (trends).
All of this is in each poster's future if the reader reads and does what he is called upon to do (internally and not by me)
trends either accelerate or decelerate after the parallelogram is able to be drawn. Do VE's to accelerate and do fanning at "internals" to decelerate.
As another has said: FTT's are the name of the game. Trading on a given fractal is done from FTT to FTT.
The FTT is what ends a trend. A trend is there and annotated; you are in according to the RTL sentiment. You go in on the last FTT and then went through the BO of the RTL and on to point 2 of the parallelogram. Then from that peaking volume you went on hold to the trough of volume @ point 3 of the parallelogram which you then drew in order to see from point 3 the TREND FAIL TO TRAVERSE (FTT) to the LTL that you drew from point 2.
This is hold and reversal trading which no one here posting has graduated to as yet. You use edges and entry/exit trading and you predict and bet on your predictions. OODA trading. Trend monitoring and analysis precludes this silly practice.
Lets accelerate a trend on a VE of the LTL.
Move point 1 to point 3. Use the VE as point 2. Now look for the end of the trend at the FTT of the new container. Throw out the old container by non stationarity rules.
Lets take a look as an "internal" is appearing on a RTL. you have to slow down the trend at this point simce price is just meandering along the RTL on lower volumes. So fan the RTL from the point 1 where your hold began and duplicate (clone) the RTL and put it on the point 2 you are now ALREADY USING.
lets look back a bit. If you make trading trends out of ftt's on faster trends; then your trading on the slower trend is a snap and very free of fear, anxity, and anger. If you connect the FTT's of your trading trend you have a large outer trend container for your traverse trading from FTT to FTT (including the acceleration and deceleration adjustments.
THIS ALL CAN BE SO EASY IF YOU USE PRINCIPLES AND THEIR ORDER OF EVENTS.
BUT it will not happen for most of you. You will not take the time to follow my suggestions. You know you MUST and you will not.
most will continue to do the myth based annecdotal type hit or miss. some will nest fractals but skip and jump fractals in the process. All of you will continue to "take trades doing entry and exit.
will the day ever come when you figure out both entry and exit are the same but opposite things. I think not. YOU ARE JUST READING A LONG NONSENSICAL POST YOU WILL TRY AND TRY TO FORGET.
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The is little chance that you will become converant with the category of traders aptly named by the owners of Tradr'sExpo, to wit: "Great Traders You Have Never Heard Of". Groups of four of such traders appeard at each Expo and were hosted by te owner of Expo for two hour sessions so they could interact to prepared questions, They always met at lunch before the session to determine the question set. One especially nice aspect of the sessions was the transition from the moderator introducing questions to a period where the experts jusat interacted among themselves by maintaining a high quality of discourse.....
Did you know that I was on that panel! Yup you were groveling and lapping up my " high " discourse and you didn't even know it. When you asked for my autograph I almost signed it stonedinvestor but I thought better at the last moment as you looked deranged and stank of urine.
You were trained in the art of " theoretical physics " and talk to quants on a collegial basis... Jesus Jack, why don't you just say you are a paper trader at 85!
It's time Jack for you to use your 65 years of experience watching others work the market to come up with your first three stock picks. This is truly a huge moment for us ET readers who have for so long put up with your crazy, I assume drunk rambling. the spotlight is finally on you Jack!
Give us those three stock picks so we can track your methodology better. Stop with the always looking back-- it's time for you Jack Hershey to grow the F up. ~ stoney