1. I suggest you can't know God at all. What do I mean when I write the word
know.?
God is clearly defined as beyond the human mind. Beyond human imagination. The greatest. Eternal. Absolute. Larger than the largest and also smallest than the smallest. Unlimited.
It is bit like saying a person can understand the concept of nothing.
Is it possible to take away everything (including the human mind) to experience nothing?
Does "nothing" actually exist within the universe?
Certain concepts can be quasi understood via the human mind, but not experienced nor genuinely understood.
Where the human mind trips out and fails is in its own nature of being a part of time and space, when God is beyond the limits of time and space.
2. Science can measure electrical impulses. Science cannot tell what specific thoughts are by measuring electrical impulses in the brain, science can't tell what ideas someone is having, science cannot measure what human consciousness is, science can only measure with physical instruments, and the reality of ideas and concepts are beyond the physical.
Oh, I am not equating God with an idea, as an idea is limited, singular in nature. Each idea is only a fraction of all possible ideas, and God is a whole value. No no worries, the concept of God is not based on imagination, the concept of God is based on the principles of Ontological philosophical inquiry.
Quote from PatternRec:
1. Recall, you suggest we can't know God at all. I'm saying that you won't find any who agree to that who are theists. They will at the most concede or proffer that "His way is are higher than ours." But what does that mean accept that they cannot fully comprehend God but can in part understand?
If you say that you cannot in part understand, then God is therefore undefined. But the problem is, even God as a concept is defined. Whether God or gods are real is a whole different matter. For without at least a definition, you'd have no idea what to observe for. And that goes for theists and atheists alike. The theists will "observe" god via their definition of it by what they perceive is its interaction with the material world. The atheist will observe god by the theist definition or by accidentally stumble upon him should there be no other possible natural way to explain its manifestation.
2. Can science "measure" an idea? "Measure" consciousness? Metaphysical double-speak aside, an idea is an idea. consciousness is consciousness. You can observe both once they are manifested. And they will inevitably manifest themselves. Then it can be tested, experimented upon, etc.
But be careful with your analogy. You realize that by equating God with an idea, you are making God out to be a figment of imagination. Unintended, I'm sure. But it is the conclusion from your analogy.
