Evolution Just Got Harder to Defend

Notice it's more left-wing dummies who believe in this Godless nonsense.

Not one single scientist can explain, prove or demonstrate organic life arising out of inanimate material. That's God, you dumb bitches.

Keep selling your Godless shit elsewhere. Until you can demonstrate life spontaneously arising out of nothing, evolutionists are no different then snake oil salesman pushing their wares on a corner.
Looks like somebody skipped step 1-12, keep it up you Canadian oil sands junkie.
 
And they should be treated as such. Evolution goes way outside the normal boundaries of science which rely on DIRECT and INDIRECT observation.

They can't account for life arising out of nothing without one single and critical assumption - there is no God.

Well, that is an assumption. That's all it is. And without it, scientists can't prove shit. Nor do their ridiculous "assumptions".

So stop forcing that shit down our throats. I don't shove my Bible down your throat. So stay the fuck outta my face with that Darwinian crap.
 
More nonsense from our local windbag. How many blowjobs u give behind Chevron today bro
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Looks like it's going to be one of your classic piss drunk all night moronathons again, don't forget to put on your diaper before you pass out.
 
Looks like it's going to be one of your classic piss drunk all night moronathons again, don't forget to put on your diaper before you pass out.
Very clever. Did you suck your dads dick before or after you came up with that zinger.
 
stop forcing that shit down our throats.

On the contrary, that shit tastes so good there's no need to force any of it down your throat to receive true noodlyness.

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2. life from non life is not really the issue... its whether it was from random chance. After reading a ton of writings from scientists in the field I think the "drive for life" being programmed into the building blocks so that they could evolve into life is probably the most solid scientific hypothesis.

You have surprised me. You are beginning to understand somewhat. However the 'programming' does not come from a designer or a "God'. It is a consequence of the nature of matter, and therefore what can occur is highly constrained. And it is constrained in a way that favors formation or organisms and viruses. For example organisms very similar to what exist on Earth will be found in many other solar systems, and all these organisms will be based on carbon and not some other element. The reasons for this are understood in detail by some scientists.

To read the arguments in favor of all organisms being based on carbon see this paper: Why life exists. Michael J. S. Dewar , Eamonn Healy. Organometallics , 1982, 1 (12), pp 1705–1708. DOI: 10.1021/om00072a029 (You can view the first page on the internet, or get it for free at any major University library. But it is a technical paper that unless you are a Ph.D. chemist or physicist you will have difficulty grasping the computations and understanding the arguments behind it's assertion that carbon is the element essential to all organisms.)
 
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"beginning to understand" why do you so frequently have to make such unfounded self aggrandizing statements. Its annoying having to correct your specious crap. you just waste both our time.


If you go back and read some of the arguments I have had with Stu on this subject... you see I was talking about that fact one of the guys who discovered DNA realized that it was so complicated there was very little chance in developed here on earth by random chance, so he wrote a paper about Pan Spermia. (I probably wrote that 6 to 7 years ago. I have presented papers and quotes for the top guys in the field on this subject ever since then.

I agree the programming does not have to come from a Creator but it seems almost impossible that it was create by random chance in the limited amount of time the evolution from non life to life could have happened. Pushing the evolution back into space only buys you a small bit of time.

And even that it still does not really explain whey our universe also seems to be so incredibley fine tuned for life.




You have surprised me. You are beginning to understand somewhat. However the 'programming' does not come from a designer or a "God'. It is a consequence of the nature of matter, and therefore what can occur is highly constrained. And it is constrained in a way that favors formation or organisms and viruses. For example organisms very similar to what exist on Earth will be found in many other solar systems, and all these organisms will be based on carbon and not some other element. The reasons for this are understood in detail by some scientists.

To read the arguments in favor of all organisms being based on carbon see this paper: Why life exists. Michael J. S. Dewar , Eamonn Healy. Organometallics , 1982, 1 (12), pp 1705–1708. DOI: 10.1021/om00072a029 (You can view the first page on the internet, or get it for free at any major University library. But it is a technical paper that unless you are a Ph.D. chemist or physicist you will have difficulty grasping the computations and understanding the arguments behind it's assertion that carbon is the element essential to all organisms.)
 
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there is no proof for you at all there. pure speculation. I quote "maybe there was something there before the big bang." Just like we have been saying. Of course "before" may not be the correct term.


Now the BBC no less, shows there's proof God was not the creator at the point where religion and science meats...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02gfgfq


did you see that!! :wtf: The universe was Noodled into existence!
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