Evolution debunked in 1 paragraph.

Betapeg · Jul 25, 2011

Quote from MakeNoMistake:

Allah is to God as Zeus is to God.

To Christians, what is the difference between modern Hindi Gods and ancient Greek Gods? There are/were whole populations who believed that they were real. Yet you discount them. Why is your God the one true God and all others false?

Richard Dawkins said it best.

"We are all atheists about most of the gods that societies have ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further."

Trader666 · Jul 25, 2011

Actually it makes a lot of sense. Why would you expect ancient descriptions of God and religion from different people of different times, languages, cultures and perspectives to all be the same?

Quote from Betapeg:

It doesn't make any sense that a "Creator" deity would leave it to followers of various religions which contradict each other to convince the human race of its existence.

Trader666 · Jul 25, 2011

Like this example of YOUR nonsense?

A Celestial Teapot or a Celestial God? Of course both are equally implausible.
Simply because a Celestial God is just as much of an unfalsifiable claim as is a Celestial Teapot.

Quote from STUpid:

... you are only going to be capable of making false assertions which you think is a form of argument.

Betapeg · Jul 26, 2011

Quote from Trader666:

Actually it makes a lot of sense. Why would you expect ancient descriptions of God and religion from different people of different times, languages, cultures and perspectives to all be the same?

I wouldn't.

I don't find it logical that a "Creator" which desires to be known to the human race would do it through contradictory religions. Some had many gods, others just one, and still others saw nature itself as the deity. Most are extinct. I think the reason they can't agree is because the Creator simply isn't there to prove one way or the other. I love science for the fact that it can agree on the most fundamental concepts of reality, while religion simply cannot. Why anyone believes some guy who says he had a chat with "god" and is now a "prophet", I don't know. Strange coincidence that almost every religion starts off that way. One guy who claims to have had a revelation...

Trader666 · Jul 26, 2011

How do you know the motivations and time frame of a "Creator?"

Even with today's technology and our supposed sophistication, look at how differently conservatives and liberals characterize the issues of the debt ceiling debate. So, what kind of writings would you expect to exist today about a "Creator" who visited thousands of years ago, given conditions back then?

Quote from Betapeg:

I wouldn't.

I don't find it logical that a "Creator" which desires to be known to the human race would do it through contradictory religions. Some had many gods, others just one, and still others saw nature itself as the deity. Most are extinct. I think the reason they can't agree is because the Creator simply isn't there to prove one way or the other. I love science for the fact that it can agree on the most fundamental concepts of reality, while religion simply cannot. Why anyone believes some guy who says he had a chat with "god" and is now a "prophet", I don't know. Strange coincidence that almost every religion starts off that way. One guy who claims to have had a revelation...

Betapeg · Jul 26, 2011

Quote from Trader666:

How do you know the motivations and time frame of a "Creator?"

Even with today's technology and our supposed sophistication, look at how differently conservatives and liberals characterize the issues of the debt ceiling debate. So, what kind of writings would you expect to exist today about a "Creator" who visited thousands of years ago, given conditions back then?

I'm not worried about its motivations or time frame because it hasn't shown its existence. The stark differences and contradictions among religions is a manifestation of a belief in something that's not there and each culture's characteristic view on a "Creator", absent any scientific explanations of nature. As science progresses, religion retreats, as the need for religious explanations of reality grow more and more obsolete with the times.

Big Kahuna · Jul 26, 2011

Science can neither prove or disprove the existence of God therefore it is not the appropriate means of finding God. God reveals himself to those who believe. Why would he care about those who don't believe?

Quote from Betapeg:

I'm not worried about its motivations or time frame because it hasn't shown its existence. The stark differences and contradictions among religions is a manifestation of a belief in something that's not there and each culture's characteristic view on a "Creator", absent any scientific explanations of nature. As science progresses, religion retreats, as the need for religious explanations of reality grow more and more obsolete with the times.

Gabfly1 · Jul 26, 2011

In case anyone missed it the first time:

Quote from atticus:

This thread is more definitive than a Wechsler test.

Succinct. Complete.

Lucrum · Jul 26, 2011

Quote from Gabfly1:

In other news, hallucinations reveal themselves to those with psychosis.

Really? Tell us Gabby, what are some your best hallucinations?

Gabfly1 · Jul 26, 2011

Quote from Lucrum:

Really? Tell us Gabby, what are some your best hallucinations?

The ones where you manage to find a clue.