Evolution debunked in 1 paragraph.

Quote from Lucrum:

ONLY because you arrogantly presume anyone who doesn't dutifully swallow the big bang, something from nothing, life from non life, macro evolution theories without any question must be a creationist.
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Nowhere have I ever presumed nor said anyone should do any such thing.

So what compels you to keep making that kind of spurious statement, almost invariably against only those who rebut the types of anti-science arguments creationists use?

You act like one, you talk like one, you make false statements like one, you sound like one, except in your denials that you are one..
Why wouldn't someone expect you to be a creationist?
 
Quote from seneca_roman:

Venter created a bacterium not DNA. DNA synthesis is relatively simple chemistry but it does not produce a life form. Keep up with program.

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No shit Sherlock, what makes you think I didn't know that already. By "DNA synthesis", I meant a DNA molecule synthesized in a laboratory. I'm wondering why you've decided to be a complete asshole for no apparent reason.
 
Quote from Trader666:

Wrong. You discredited yourself, you continue to do so, and I've explained why it's relevant.
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Right, option trading and cosmology go hand in hand. I'll keep that in mind.

Never said you did. You wrote "The Christian god is no more real than Zeus or Thor" and I'm asking you to prove it. You keep huffing and puffing about staying on topic so go ahead and I'll tear it down.
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The Christian god is no more falsifiable than Zeus or Thor.

I've made no such claim.
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So what are you claiming?

Nothing wrong with being a newbie. It's your jackass attitude and "certainty" about what you don't know that invites ridicule. Like here. No wonder nobody gave you more constructive advice.
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=3244234#post3244234 [/B]
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It takes balls to admit you're wrong. Which I did. The risk was more than I expected. I'll admit I was humbled. Does that satisfy you? Can we move on to the discussion at hand????????
 
Quote from Lucrum:

I "question" macro evolution, life from non life and something from nothing theories more because I know less about them. And frankly some of them are IMO no less far fetched than creationism. I grew up in church,(as I've admitted previously) I already know all the bible stories.
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Why do you think stories written in an ancient time of no science, passed down orally for centuries before written on tablet/papyrus, more credible an explanation than experimentally verified theories such as the Big Bang, and mathematically possible multi-verse hypotheses.

I also grew up in churches and believed the earth was 6000 years old. When I was 12 of course and had no idea what was being taught to me. What I lament is the fact that the Christian god is no more real than Zeus or Thor, as I said before. I can't converse with Jesus, see Jesus, ask him questions, shake his hands, nothing. I might as well believe in a flying spaghetti monster god because they're equally unverifiable. I still want to believe in Jesus but he isn't anywhere to be seen, just like every other god.
 
Quote from Betapeg:

No shit Sherlock, what makes you think I didn't know that already. By "DNA synthesis", I meant a DNA molecule synthesized in a laboratory. I'm wondering why you've decided to be a complete asshole for no apparent reason.
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I didn't think you "knew about it" as the Venter creation of life was huge news in the field and I expected you, as a self PROCLAIMED EXPERT, WOULD HAVE THAT KNOWLEDGE at your fingertips.

Why do you resort to name calling when you are off topic and get called out for doing it.

If you can explain how dna is life (artiifical life was the subject); then I'll readily admit I'm wrong. Otherwise enjoy your skill at name calling but lack of knowledge of the topic under discussion.

BTW-if you need to resort to name calling, try to be more creative, because you are not very good at it either.

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You're like a petulant child. Keep pretending that sloppy thinking in one area doesn't carry over to others and maybe after it's cost you enough you'll finally pull your head out of your ass.

Being "no more falsifiable" doesn't necessarily mean "no more real."

That NOBODY knows and anyone who "thinks" they're "certain" is not.

Stop acting like a know-it-all jackass and yes, we can move on.
Quote from Betapig:

Right, option trading and cosmology go hand in hand. I'll keep that in mind.

The Christian god is no more falsifiable than Zeus or Thor.

So what are you claiming?

It takes balls to admit you're wrong. Which I did. The risk was more than I expected. I'll admit I was humbled. Does that satisfy you? Can we move on to the discussion at hand????????
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Quote from Betapeg:

Why do you think stories written in an ancient time of no science, passed down orally for centuries before written on tablet/papyrus, more credible an explanation than experimentally verified theories such as the Big Bang, and mathematically possible multi-verse hypotheses.

I also grew up in churches and believed the earth was 6000 years old. When I was 12 of course and had no idea what was being taught to me. What I lament is the fact that the Christian god is no more real than Zeus or Thor, as I said before. I can't converse with Jesus, see Jesus, ask him questions, shake his hands, nothing. I might as well believe in a flying spaghetti monster god because they're equally unverifiable. I still want to believe in Jesus but he isn't anywhere to be seen, just like every other god.
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Leonard Susskind the physicist who wrote the book said the following.... about the multiverse...

"If, for some unforeseen reason, the landscape turns out to be inconsistent – maybe for mathematical reasons, or because it disagrees with observation – I am pretty sure that physicists will go on searching for natural explanations of the world. But I have to say that if that happens, as things stand now we will be in a very awkward position. Without any explanation of nature’s fine-tunings we will be hard pressed to answer the ID critics. One might argue that the hope that a mathematically unique solution will emerge is as faith-based as ID."

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here is the crux... I see you grasping at straws pretending your view is superior to the view there is a creator....

yet... There is no proof of a multi verse --- it is just conjecture...it is faith based.


Our universe looks designed... right now scientists are trying to come up with explanations for the design... and so far they are grasping at straws... they are proposing so far untestable unverifable fantasies about almost infinite other universes.

So to be scientific -- you should also be asking yourself why are people coming up with stories about the universe being the result of random chance.

finally to be truly open minded and scientific you have to ask yourself
Why does our universe appear to be spectacularly designed? (noble prize winners words... not mine)
 
Quote from bigarrow:

Jem why can't you be satisfied with just going to church? Why the long endless pro god posts?
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Isn't that a two way street?
 
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