Even the Pope sides with Futurecurrents

how that hell can you team be blaming the drought here in CA on global warming when the drought was just partially quashed by warming rains?

Ricter said:
Drumpf's a loon. Even if he doesn't think we can do anything about AGW, or he thinks it's just GW not AGW, or even if he thinks there isn't any warming, how the hell can he think there's no drought in California?
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this is a fricken joke... look at that last sentence. They were blaming drought on agw... but now that we have warm year... its unclear why there could be flooding when we are warming.

Its just so much bullshit...

Let me clear it up.
Warming means more rains...
Co2 means more greening.
More rain and more co2 means more food.
Therefore... if more co2 means more rain and more food...
that might be what we need to feed an exploding population.


nitro said:
View attachment 164509 What’s causing the devastating floods in France and Germany?

Paris is flooding. A barrage of heavy rain across France and Germany this week has forced thousands to evacuate their homes and left at least 10 people dead.

One region received the equivalent of six weeks of rain in a single day. The river Seine is expected to peak at 6 metres today.

A weather phenomenon called an “omega block” is behind the deluge. In this case the air currents known as the jet stream have kinked in such a way to create a large area of low pressure over western Europe.

How this fits into the broader trend of a changing climate is still unclear, however...

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2092131-whats-causing-the-devastating-floods-in-france-and-germany/?utm_source=NSNS&utm_medium=ILC&utm_campaign=webpush&cmpid=ILC%7CNSNS%7C2016-GLOBAL-webpush-floodsfrancegermany
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jem said:
how that hell can you team be blaming the drought here in CA on global warming when the drought was just partially quashed by warming rains?
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That's not the point. For whatever reason there IS a drought.
 
OddTrader said:
http://www.theguardian.com/australi...-5754ee68e4b09769a0d1cd69#liveblog-navigation

Collaroy beach, before and after the Sydney storm:
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The pool by the flagpole in the left-hand image? That’s the one tumbling down to the beach in the right.

http://www.theguardian.com/australi...tline-rocked-by-weekend-of-wild-weather-video

Stretches of beach have been swept away, buildings have collapsed into the ocean, suburbs have flooded and residents have been evacuated as a monster storm made its way through New South Wales over the weekend.

theguardian.com

Monday 6 June 2016
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http://www.smh.com.au/environment/s...e-intense-scientists-say-20160606-gpcdom.html

In what the government claims is a world leading approach, offshore sand and other sediment buffers will be taken into account so that councils will also have to work together. Councils will be able to tap $83.6 million over five years of funding to reduce coastal risks but in exchange, their programs will be closely audited.

The impact of the latest storms was made worse by the rising sea levels. Over the past century sea levels have risen about 21cm globally as a warming world has melted glaciers and also swollen the world's oceans, and are likely to continue to rise, Dr Braganza said.

David Rissik, deputy director of the National Climate Change Adaptation Research Facility, said the public had a range of tools to model sea-level rise, but that alone will not be enough.

"You've also got to take into account the wave heights and the winds that drove [the weekend's storms]," Dr Rissik said.

Decision makers had to work with the broader community to determine what risks they needed to bear. "But we also need to stop building in the wrong areas," he said.
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OddTrader said:
http://www.theguardian.com/australi...-5754ee68e4b09769a0d1cd69#liveblog-navigation

Collaroy beach, before and after the Sydney storm:
6510.jpg
The pool by the flagpole in the left-hand image? That’s the one tumbling down to the beach in the right.

http://www.theguardian.com/australi...tline-rocked-by-weekend-of-wild-weather-video

Stretches of beach have been swept away, buildings have collapsed into the ocean, suburbs have flooded and residents have been evacuated as a monster storm made its way through New South Wales over the weekend.

theguardian.com

Monday 6 June 2016
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Ricter said:
That's not the point. For whatever reason there IS a drought.
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California has had extended droughts in the past. But this time average temps in the state are three degrees warmer than one hundred years ago. Less snowpack and more evap makes it worse.

The combo of global warming and the drought cycle means that CA will be in big trouble.

The deniers will be able to stick their heads in dry hot sand. Hopefully a flash flood happens while they are down there.
 
1st generation - No problem!

2nd generation - Not a problem!

3rd generation - Don't worry about the problem!

4th generation - Arguing whether it's a problem!

5th generation - Fighting how to deal with the problem!

6th generation - Still arguing the problem! Too expensive for treating the problem now.

7th genartion - The problem is too critical! But not enough money for the problem now! As we should have fixed the problem many many years ago when the costs involved were much much lower then!

8th generation - The problem seems already irreversible and unavoidable by now. It's just too late, no matter how much we want to spend! Sorry!

...

Nth generation - The problem is gone, and a history! Still arguing the True/Actual causes for the problem, still having huge disagreement! Some faithful ones still claim happily their effort and strength for huge money was luckily saved, otherwise wasting too much money for something not worth to worry about!

(Money perhaps should be spent only on finding another Habitable planet where the future generations live!)







http://www.smh.com.au/environment/s...e-intense-scientists-say-20160606-gpcdom.html

In what the government claims is a world leading approach, offshore sand and other sediment buffers will be taken into account so that councils will also have to work together. Councils will be able to tap $83.6 million over five years of funding to reduce coastal risks but in exchange, their programs will be closely audited.

The impact of the latest storms was made worse by the rising sea levels. Over the past century sea levels have risen about 21cm globally as a warming world has melted glaciers and also swollen the world's oceans, and are likely to continue to rise, Dr Braganza said.

David Rissik, deputy director of the National Climate Change Adaptation Research Facility, said the public had a range of tools to model sea-level rise, but that alone will not be enough.

"You've also got to take into account the wave heights and the winds that drove [the weekend's storms]," Dr Rissik said.

Decision makers had to work with the broader community to determine what risks they needed to bear. "But we also need to stop building in the wrong areas," he said.
More...
 
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