Europe Socialism vs. American Socialism. Europe for all, America for a few.

[Misthos]

Quote from Debaser82:

Thats because the US government is king in fudging the numbers...

We also incarcerate -by far- a higher percentage of our population than any other industrialized country.

That, along with having a large active military... and then look at U6 unemployment figures... and guess what? We're up there with Spain, maybe even worse.

 

[Rimping]

Quote from makloda:

Every country in Europe that I am aware of is treating "professional trading" capital gains as ordinary income. Even though some countries do not tax capital gains you will still have to pay (sometimes sizable) income taxes, depending on how much in trading gains you have.

Liechtenstein, Monte Carlo, Cyprus, Andorra and possibly Malta are notable exceptions.

Taxes in Europe are generally bad, especially for higher incomes. This is nothing new. It doesn't stop there. Indirect taxes are out of hand. Europeans created a system of clever indirect taxation of sugar, insurances, champagne all the way to an entertainment tax.

For higher tax brackets, if you earn 300,000 EUR a year in countries like Germany, Denmark, Sweden or France it is likely you see your government taking a 50-60% cut, leaving you with less than half. Then you are nailed with indirect taxes on your consumption. Another 10% of your gross income gone. You end up paying 70% of your annual income to the government. It used to be called communism, now it's labeled "putting the weight on the shoulders of those who can carry it".

It's a paradise if you're an unemployment married couple in your 30s with five children. Nothing to worry about then. European governments take care of their loyal sheep from the crib all the way to the casket.

Many of those who can take off. UK (nondom taxation for foreigners), Monte Carlo, Caribbean, Switzerland (lump sum taxation for foreigners), Dubai et. al.

I'm a Dutch citizen and I pay absolutely zero in taxes on the money I make by trading.
The rule here is that everybody has to pay 30% on a "fictve" income of 4% on his capital. That makes 1.2% on your capital. What you really make doesn't matter.
That for me, in my circomstances, is the only taxes I pay: every year 1.2% of my total net worth.

 

[Humpy]

Quote from Misthos:

We also incarcerate -by far- a higher percentage of our population than any other industrialized country.

That, along with having a large active military... and then look at U6 unemployment figures... and guess what? We're up there with Spain, maybe even worse.

In the UK about 70% of convicted criminals re-offend and that's the ones that are caught !
Obviously a great big re-think is needed. The present system of sending them to jail for a while is hopeless. Many come out having learnt to become more sophisticated criminals. Prisons are aptly named the Universities of crime.
Some consider wrongly in my view that they have repaid a debt to society when the reality is that they are a massive burden on the state's resources.
Sooner or later a politician of strength will hopefully emerge to tackle this situation. The old Christian philosophy of forgiveness is wasted on such hardened villains.

 

[TraderZones]

Quote from Humpy:

In the UK about 70% of convicted criminals re-offend and that's the ones that are caught !
Obviously a great big re-think is needed. The present system of sending them to jail for a while is hopeless. Many come out having learnt to become more sophisticated criminals. Prisons are aptly named the Universities of crime.
Some consider wrongly in my view that they have repaid a debt to society when the reality is that they are a massive burden on the state's resources.
Sooner or later a politician of strength will hopefully emerge to tackle this situation. The old Christian philosophy of forgiveness is wasted on such hardened villains.

Prison mainly should be for violent offenders. Others should be put into activities that recompense back the victims OR strip them of their citizenship then dump them onto some deserted island, etc.

 

[Debaser82]

Quote from TraderZones:

Prison mainly should be for violent offenders. Others should be put into activities that recompense back the victims OR strip them of their citizenship then dump them onto some deserted island, etc.

We tried that in 1492 but they regrouped.

 

[Humpy]

Quote from TraderZones:

Prison mainly should be for violent offenders. Others should be put into activities that recompense back the victims OR strip them of their citizenship then dump them onto some deserted island, etc.

Right on

there's Alcatraz, Devil's island off Guiana and perhaps Mars when they get around to it. Australia seems occupied at the mo

 

[asiaprop]

and this occurred to you now? Bravo...

Its all a question of whether you belong or not. Obviously those who bash GS dont...;-)

Quote from jueco2005:

The main difference between American and European Socialism is the coverage.

Europe's socialism works because everyone is part of the system.

America's socialism is way different. It only covers a small % of the population at the expense of the majority.The SHEEPLE pay for the socialism of the few rich bastards.

 

[Barth Vader]

"...The Soviet Union, China, and Eastern Europe have given us the clearest possible proof that capitalism organizes the material affairs of humankind more satisfactorily than socialism; that however inequitably or irresponsibly the marketplace may distribute goods, it does so better than the queues of a planned economy; however mindless the culture of commercialism, it is more attractive than state moralism; and however deceptive the ideology of a business civilization, it is more believable than that of a socialist one ...."

Robert Heilbroner
[ Former Marxist economist who changed his position before the fall of the Berlin Wall]

From an article at www.augustreview.com

 

[SNBthetrue]

Quote from Misthos:

We also incarcerate -by far- a higher percentage of our population than any other industrialized country.

That, along with having a large active military... and then look at U6 unemployment figures... and guess what? We're up there with Spain, maybe even worse.

India my friend... it's crasy !

 

[SNBthetrue]

Quote from Debaser82:

Rachida Dati: head of justice department since 2007 till just last month, father from Morocco, mother from Algeria

Rama Yade, Senegal born, Secretary of State for Human Rights, now Secretary of State for Sports ..

Sure there have been others over time but anyway...

I do agree europe has had a failed integration policy that has come back and bite the old continent in the ass but in reality integration of minorities is or has been a problem around the world and the ultimate solution has yet to be found.


It's like economics. Some say print money others say don't and in reality neither of them can really know where it will end.

hahah I call the bluff ! you are naked buddy... be carefull I could start to buy

So for the uneducated or fool that you are some comments that you didn't write... you little dishonnest man... trying to prove something false ! I hate you.

"Dati was the first woman from a non-European immigrant background to occupy a key ministerial position in the French Cabinet.[1]" (wiki english)

Ahah 1 - 0 ( as you don't have enough intellectual horse power : it was the 18 may 2007 ! Don't you think it isn't late ? )

Now where is Miss Dati ? She was removed to the European parlement ! Far away from Paris... How long did she stay in the Gov ?

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Why it wasn't a foreign man first ?... Because it's not the same... you know what I mean... a because you are stupid enough to understand this one.

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The other girl : MissYade :

Rama Yade (born Mame Ramatoulaye Yade on December 13, 1976 in Dakar, Senegal) is a French politician who has served in the government of France since 2007 and is currently the Secretary of State for Sports. ( wiki )

Sport baby... hahah

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And now the final point... because I don't understand stupidity... I try... because you know... what else could I do...

"The Senate (French: Sénat) is the upper house of the Parliament of France, presided over by a president.

The Senate enjoys less prominence than the lower house, the directly elected National Assembly; debates in the Senate tend to be less tense and enjoy generally less media coverage."

Ready : I went to the website and checked the name with C as a good sample... Let's check who as a foreign name...

( http://www.senat.fr/listes/senatl.html#SEN_O )
C
CAFFET Jean-Pierre
CAMBON Christian
CAMPION Claire-Lise
CANTEGRIT Jean-Pierre
CARLE Jean-Claude
CARRÈRE Jean-Louis
CARTRON Françoise
CAZALET Auguste
CAZEAU Bernard
CERISIER-ben GUIGA Monique
CÉSAR Gérard
CHARASSE Michel
CHASTAN Yves
CHATILLON Alain
CHAUVEAU Jean-Pierre
CHEVÉ Jacqueline
CHEVÈNEMENT Jean-Pierre
CLÉACH Marcel-Pierre
COINTAT Christian
COLLIN Yvon
COLLOMB Gérard
COLLOMBAT Pierre-Yves
CORNU Gérard
COUDERC Raymond
COURTEAU Roland
COURTOIS Jean-Patrick

NONE !!! All the name are 100% french NATIVE !

YOU ARE A NAKED ! And now check your phone... it's your broker calling you... you have a margin call...

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PS what is you agenda ? what do you want ? only stupidity ?