ES Journal Archive (2011)

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Updating the boat building process. No takers on the lollypop offer?

Quote from Pekelo:

FNH: 7s/1t/75%= 1 ft

FNH: 9s/1t/70% = 1 ft

The size of the boat didn't change, except a statistics. I didn't even touch the length, because I am getting better at reading the manual...
 
Quote from atticus:

Sold the puts from 11.00 (33.00 per); so 1303 is b/e.

Thanks. How far out of the money were they?

Refreshing my option course, the max. profit would have been around 1270 and the position was good as long as the price stayed between 1270-1303, correct? (with less and less profit as price approached 1303)
 
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Thanks. How far out of the money were they?

Refreshing my option course, the max. profit would have been around 1270 and the position was good as long as the price stayed between 1270-1303, correct? (with less and less profit as price approached 1303)

No, the puts were 1250s, so max was at 1250 at expiration (1233-1303 range). I sold the puts at 1280-81, IIRC.
 
Quote from Nexen:

It is true that I'm not participating in the live calling like you do, I only offer market commentary, and 100% of the time it has been buy the retracements, very strong uptrend, don't fade it, don't call tops, the usual.

Anyone can offer market commentary that says "We're in a long term uptrend, buy the retracements, don't fade it, don't call tops..." You're just stating basic trend-following rules for swing traders that have been stated for decades by authors and educators.

If you want to build credibility here, you can do one of three things:

1) Call your live trades for a while with your profit targets and risk management rules stated in advance

2) Post your trade blotters for a while so we can cross-reference the charts on our own and figure out how a professional trader extracts money from the market.

3) At the very least, call trades in advance with entry price triggers, profit targets and risk management rules, even if you personally don't take the trades.

Quote from Nexen:

You on the other hand have been a permabear averaging down lunatic and you dare mock me ? Denial, I suppose.

Ammo calls his trades and trade management processes all day every day. He trades for a living, and it seems he's been doing so successfully for quite some time. Just because he uses market profile instead of specific technical indicators or price bar patterns, and just because he looks to capture profits from counter-trend retracement moves, and just because he trades to the short side (most likely because price tends to fall faster than it rises and in case of a major negative news event, markets tend to crash quickly, rather than rise meteorically), doesn't mean he's a lunatic.

Quote from Nexen:

Speaking of geniuses adding to losers to make money is not exactly the equivalent of the cure for cancer in trading.

Since you're attacking ammo here, but not any of the long-only average-down traders, I'm guessing that you believe adding to a losing position no matter how far price runs against you is smart as long as your position is in the direction of the long-term trend, but adding to a losing position with a maximum acceptable stop loss planned in advance is lunatic if your position is counter to the long-term trend. Or have I misinterpreted your commentary?
 
for a long position trader,it takes a lot of balls to ride any size on such a steep up move,knowing that a large down open could be any time, my hat is off to those....,for a short position trader,the risk is capped with fear and a 3- 7 point up opening is easily adjusted on the intraday pullbacks....,in any mass herd ,heading north or south...there are a lot of droppings,...droppings attract ....
 
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for a long position trader,it takes a lot of balls to ride any size on such a steep up move,knowing that a large down open could be any time, my hat is off to those....,for a short position trader,the risk is capped with fear and a 3- 7 point up opening is easily adjusted on the intraday pullbacks....,in any mass herd ,heading north or south...there are a lot of droppings,...droppings attract ....

What you say is true, it does take tremendous courage to hold considerable positions long after such extended move.

Nevertheless, some might argue that the strongest of trends have these characteristics.

However, what I find fascinating is how the new higher highs are created, it's almost like shorting new highs guarantees a profitable quick target if you are nimble but then again so is buying the pull backs.

Market is allowing bulls and bears to make money, it's just that in this case it's allowing dumb and clever bulls to make money but only clever bears like yourself.

I wonder, is your style any different when we have a bear market ? I ask because the bear market rallies are some sickening stuff.

NAD
 
Quote from noaveragingdown:

What you say is true, it does take tremendous courage to hold considerable positions long after such extended move.

Nevertheless, some might argue that the strongest of trends have these characteristics.

However, what I find fascinating is how the new higher highs are created, it's almost like shorting new highs guarantees a profitable quick target if you are nimble but then again so is buying the pull backs.

Market is allowing bulls and bears to make money, it's just that in this case it's allowing dumb and clever bulls to make money but only clever bears like yourself.

I wonder, is your style any different when we have a bear market ? I ask because the bear market rallies are some sickening stuff.

NAD
[/QUOTE fundamentally,i've never seen an opportunity like this,we had the credit default debacle,now we have that compounded x 2,waiting for the other shoe to drop,so i couldn't say since it will possibly be the worst bear market we've never seen...unless bernanke succeeds at sweeping this under the carpet...what is .the reward vs risk going long up here
 
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