ES Journal Archive (2009 - 2010)

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Good advice, I need to start practicing that.

Quote from NoDoji:

Hi OW,

IMHO, if you plan to average down (up) on a trade that runs against you, have a trading plan with a stop and an expected target. Averaging into a losing trade shouldn't be a random affair that's played "on the fly" or what will happen is either you'll get burned one day (if you have no max loss planned in advance), or your trade will finally signal properly, start moving your way, and you'll exit too soon instead of letting the winner run. If you have an advance price target, let your trade work.

I didn't trade ES today, but I traded a stock and let two decent winners stop me out near b/e because I was trying to let a winner run. I also had some CL trades where instead of scalping a quick 10 or 15 ticks, I was stopped out near b/e trying to let winner run.

I mentioned to my husband my frustration at watching a potential $650+ day end up +$164 and he had a very good response for me: "You did the right thing. If you don't practice letting winners run, you'll never get those really big winners."
 
Quote from petty1978:

1032.50 is still a leash around any upside on the ES

From yesterday afternoon...still though, 1051 offers excellent support back to 1073 area before we see 1032.50...if we skip through 1051 and make a b line for 1032.50, then a bottom is forming short-term and higher prices are expected. I see 1110-1126 as an area of serious resistance.

1094 is still a key number North of us that has been left unresolved. Expect some large swing over the next 5 trading days and great great swing trades are going to be popping up.
 
Once again, at open just now, the overnight session opened under the low of the day...this very bearish, 2 out 3 days it has done this...very unique occurrence for the ES full session...

EDIT: 1051 is now looking less likely to spark a +20 point spurt...1032.50 next stop?
 
Quote from NoDoji:

... I didn't trade ES today, but I traded a stock and let two decent winners stop me out near b/e because I was trying to let a winner run. I also had some CL trades where instead of scalping a quick 10 or 15 ticks, I was stopped out near b/e trying to let winner run.

I mentioned to my husband my frustration at watching a potential $650+ day end up +$164 and he had a very good response for me: "You did the right thing. If you don't practice letting winners run, you'll never get those really big winners."

either I screwed the pooch, or the pooch screwed me today. After a morning of ES chop, I hit the breakeven mark on a trailed short for +2pts and was filled as the market went 1 tick higher and immediately +6pts lower from that exit.

thought I was done for the day, saw a somewhat rare price pattern alignment sell signal and took that at 1076.50

ES went to 1074.75, I trailed to par, it popped to 1076.75 and v-turned on a nosedive to 1064.00 straight down.

Moral of the story? There is no perfect, scientific, strategic approach to managing trades that works all the time. S(tuff) happens along the way. Usually in that scenario related, one of two stops would hold and I'm punched out for value caught.

Tomorrow I'll do the same things, same things as I did yesterday and the day before. Your husband is right, this time. Might want to tell him that... we seldom hear such blessed words as, "Ya know honey... you were right"

:D
 
Quote from austinp:

either I screwed the pooch, or the pooch screwed me today. After a morning of ES chop, I hit the breakeven mark on a trailed short for +2pts and was filled as the market went 1 tick higher and immediately +6pts lower from that exit.

thought I was done for the day, saw a somewhat rare price pattern alignment sell signal and took that at 1076.50

ES went to 1074.75, I trailed to par, it popped to 1076.75 and v-turned on a nosedive to 1064.00 straight down.

Moral of the story? There is no perfect, scientific, strategic approach to managing trades that works all the time. S(tuff) happens along the way. Usually in that scenario related, one of two stops would hold and I'm punched out for value caught.

Tomorrow I'll do the same things, same things as I did yesterday and the day before. Your husband is right, this time. Might want to tell him that... we seldom hear such blessed words as, "Ya know honey... you were right"

:D

Austin, do you mind posting some of your trades and/or commentary on here during market hours? I think you may have something of value to offer.
 
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Moral of the story? There is no perfect, scientific, strategic approach to managing trades that works all the time. S(tuff) happens along the way. Usually in that scenario related, one of two stops would hold and I'm punched out for value caught.

Tomorrow I'll do the same things, same things as I did yesterday and the day before.

Yeah austinp, to those of us that trade heavily, long term P&L relies heavily on continuing to play the odds over and over and I am sure you deduct **plenty** from your trades that don't go as planned...
 
Quote from schizo:

In this market, ure guilty until proven innocent.

Here's my pet theory on what the hell is really going on. Ya see, up until the time SEC had the nerve to go after Goldie & Co. for obvious political reasons, among which financial regulation is a big factor, the idiots at Goldies were locking arms with the PPT (how could they not? They were practically owned by the Fed.) But now the honeymoon being effectively over, it appears the divide between the two is only getting wider by the day.

One will surely go under when all this is said and done. Who will it be? Goldie or Obama (or more likely Geithner and Bernanke)?

+1
 
Quote from Eko_Trader:

Austin, do you mind posting some of your trades and/or commentary on here during market hours? I think you may have something of value to offer.

I have no objection to that, except for the fact that I operate a room with clients who deserve my utmost attention. If/when the markets are normal volatility, it's possible to take a couple leisurely trades with plenty of time in between.

Lately (and thank God) with a return to high volatility, charts demand complete and utter focus when trading. I run a 512-tick ES chart in the room and it's not uncommon to be long and then stop-reverse short inside of a minute or two on trappy moves.

Maybe it's just me, I'll be the first to admit that... but the tapes right now seem faster, more v-turn and more explosive than ever before. Perhaps I've slowed down a tad since the glory days of 2008. Or maybe the current bot battles have sped up this game to a higher pace than ever before.

Regardless, I have all I can handle sometimes focusing on a single symbol (ES) while trying to work CL too. Most days I log some snippets of live happenings in the blog for timestamped reference as to trader thoughts, emotions, market predictions etc as the day unfolds.

Unfortunately, anything beyond working that pace right now is simply past my ability to execute. If things get any faster in the future, none of us will have time to post anything, anywhere at all :eek:
 
Quote from austinp:

I have no objection to that, except for the fact that I operate a room with clients who deserve my utmost attention. If/when the markets are normal volatility, it's possible to take a couple leisurely trades with plenty of time in between.

Lately (and thank God) with a return to high volatility, charts demand complete and utter focus when trading. I run a 512-tick ES chart in the room and it's not uncommon to be long and then stop-reverse short inside of a minute or two on trappy moves.

Maybe it's just me, I'll be the first to admit that... but the tapes right now seem faster, more v-turn and more explosive than ever before. Perhaps I've slowed down a tad since the glory days of 2008. Or maybe the current bot battles have sped up this game to a higher pace than ever before.

Regardless, I have all I can handle sometimes focusing on a single symbol (ES) while trying to work CL too. Most days I log some snippets of live happenings in the blog for timestamped reference as to trader thoughts, emotions, market predictions etc as the day unfolds.

Unfortunately, anything beyond working that pace right now is simply past my ability to execute. If things get any faster in the future, none of us will have time to post anything, anywhere at all :eek:

I'm finding, too, that the volatility requires far more focus. Look away to read a piece of news or check what's going on in this thread and miss an entry or a good chunk of a move.

I'd love to post entries, stops, targets and most importantly reason for the trade, but it's too distracting unless the market's working a leisurely pace.

I'm finding Skype to be far more useful for real-time communication between traders who are trading the same one or two instruments. No windows on-screen, no typing needed, just pure price action focus and discussion.
 
Quote from kinggyppo:

this market is in need of medication, I recommend 350 mg of Prozac.

People - the downside action today is shaking out the new longs and attracting new bears to trap... we're going to take out today's high sooner rather than later.
 
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