ES Journal Archive (2006 - 2008)

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Quote from frugi:

AFAIK GTC futures orders are native to Globex, i.e not broker simulated, and are definitely not cancelled during maintenance. If they were cancelled every night then why provide them alongside day orders?

i`ve had GTC`s that sat for days & as soon as that price was touched i was filled instantaneously & i mean briefly touched,not traded through.

On the flip side,if what you say is true (even with GTC`s) then to have an order sit for 12 hours...it would be quite easy to be hit on lo/hi tick even with 255 traded.
 
Quote from apex82:

1st target hit and filled at 1509.75

+3.5pts

Still short 2 remaining units with a stop at 1514
Apex82, for clarification, do you normally enter a position all at once and then exit in three (equal or unequal?) installments as your successive profit targets are reached?

I went short ES at 1511.75 in the Globex at 18:15, currently +2pts and holding my short position for lower.
 
Quote from frugi:

AFAIK GTC futures orders are native to Globex, i.e not broker simulated, and are definitely not cancelled during maintenance. If they were cancelled every night then why provide them alongside day orders?

that`s what i thought......as far as what i said being impossible,what are you referring to??players constantly lose their place in the order by cancelling & replacing.
 
I'm short aswell since 5AM @ 1512.50... was trying to go short at 2AM at the resistance at 1513.50, but MBT overnight figures and positions are always screwed up :mad: I'll definately be getting out of this position before 2:15 PM
 
Quote from tommymoose:

I'll definately be getting out of this position before 2:15 PM
Why? Why not just tighten your stop? The market could go down in reaction to the Fed decision (or not).
 
Quote from mbusch:

Why? Why not just tighten your stop? The market could go down in reaction to the Fed decision (or not).

Chances are it'll whip in the false direction aswell and my stops would get hit too. Maybe not though, I'm still new to this so I'll think about it.
 
"The cme cancels all orders between 1:15-1:30pst everyday so what you said is not possible"

Frugi....where art thou? why is what i said NOT possible?

expecting typical ES walk up to 2pm......14/17 zone.....long small size from 09.50.
 
Spooz I think we've crossed wires. I wasn't disagreeing with you at all.

My post was directed at Apex who was surprised not to be filled at a certain level. A couple of people then said don't be surrpised because there were probably several orders in front of his, some which may have been there for days, even weeks.

Apex, whom I quoted in my post, said no this can't be possible because CME cancels all orders every night. So then I said no I don't think they do cancel GTC orders, at least for futures.

Sorry for the confusion it would have helped if I'd addressed my post to Apex.

:)

Anyway to make up here's a chart of various breadth divergences that gave a clue that yesterday's sell-off was overdue. Notice how the new highs were not confirmed across selected internals for a good 3-4 days of that gentle rally. After that long and universal (across indices) a divergence I might stop looking for trend direction trades altogether and concentrate on finding reversals, or allow wider stops for shorts, or trade larger size short etc.

Also shorter term ones can be handy e.g it's not very clear but on 1st May as Dow made new low both its (a-d) measures made a HL warning one to take your hand off it if short.

If we make new highs after Fed & tomorrow I'll be watching it closely for similar divergences (or indeed confirmation).

Green lines are all indices, blue ones breadth. All standard boring internals that everyone knows about but I still like to keep an eye on them. Anyway sorry to intrude, my charts and bad advice are probably a bit off topic here.
 

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Quote from frugi:

Spooz I think we've crossed wires. I wasn't disagreeing with you at all.

My post was directed at Apex who was surprised not to be filled at a certain level. A couple of people then said don't be surrpised because there were probably several orders in front of his, some which may have been there for days, even weeks.

Apex, whom I quoted in my post, said no this can't be possible because CME cancels all orders every night. So then I said no I don't think they do cancel GTC orders, at least for futures.

Sorry for the confusion it would have helped if I'd addressed my post to Apex.

:)

Anyway to make up here's a chart of various breadth divergences that gave a clue that yesterday's sell-off was overdue. Notice how the new highs were not confirmed across selected internals for a good 3-4 days of that gentle rally. After that long and universal (across indices) a divergence I might stop looking for trend direction trades altogether and concentrate on finding reversals, or allow wider stops for shorts, or trade larger size short etc.

Also shorter term ones can be handy e.g it's not very clear but on 1st May as Dow made new low both its (a-d) measures made a HL warning one to take your hand off it if short.

If we make new highs after Fed & tomorrow I'll be watching it closely for similar divergences (or indeed confirmation).

Green lines are all indices, blue ones breadth. All standard boring internals that everyone knows about but I still like to keep an eye on them. Anyway sorry to intrude, my charts and bad advice are probably a bit off topic here.

Gotcha.......sorry for the mix up.:)
 
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