Ending Foodstamp Fraud

[DTB2]

Next time you go to Gibson’s give your leftovers to a bum and teach him Home Econ 101.

They usually prefer cash. I wonder why?

 

[gwb-trading]

Well over 99%.. Lol..no place to store food? They don’t get that much and they don’t have to buy all at once..How do you know all this if your an IT Consultant?

I am actually very involved as a volunteer in food bank operations as a way to give back to the community.

So tell us RRY16 -- what do you do to give back to your community?

 

[gwb-trading]

Why don't homeless people use food stamps?
https://www.quora.com/Why-dont-homeless-people-use-food-stamps

The problems with having a EBT or Link card when you are homeless are:

1. You don't have any place to store your food purchases - If you buy more than dry foods or canned goods, you won't anyplace to store them to prevent their spoilage.
2. Bulk purchases of food are difficult to carry and homeless people usually like to (or need to) travel light.
3. They require an address - While in many cities this can be a shelter or group organization, many homeless people have mixed relations with shelters and groups.
4. You can be (and you will be) robbed in the streets - The homeless are almost constant targets of crime and they can be relieved of their EBT/Link cards fairly quickly.
5. Drugs & alcohol - An EBT/Link can't be used for the purchase of drugs or alcohol. Since many homeless people are substance abusers, the card may have limited value to them if they are on a bender and quickly deplete its resources.
6. Prepared foods - While this would ideal for many homeless people, only a few restaurant chains and a few private restaurants accept the cards.This lack of flexibility can limit the utility of the cards. In the major cities this is slowly changing; in smaller cities and towns it is not happening as quickly.

 

[RRY16]

I am actually very involved as a volunteer in food bank operations as a way to give back to the community.

So tell us RRY16 -- what do you do to give back to your community?

Verifiable evidence is needed to believe anything from you.. your track record leaves a lot to be desired...I use to help at the VA Hospital in Lajolla and I pass out doobies to older folks in pain at a retirement community and sometimes drive them to the border so they can go into T.J. And purchase cheap meds.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Another GWB hates on the poor thread?

Eric Prince of Blackwater, Betsy DeVos' brother has probably engineered this plan, that or another oligarch. This would mean billions in somone's hands.

 

[Hotcakes]

Whatever Trump does the Left will denounce as racist then spin as a failure. POTUS could rescue a burning bus and Don Lemon would decry Trump first saving two white kids when a third of the kids were black.... Then he would cry about it, on air...

80-90 percent of Trumps reforms are fantastic. EBT abuse is just another mess in a long train of abuses POTUS intends to fix. Create jobs > kick tit suckers off the public charge = work bitch. Makes good sense.

 

[Cuddles]

The Trump proposal isn't the worst idea ever. I've always said if we're gonna foot the bill, then there should be strict restrictions to ensure only food stuffs are bought. I personally thought of government ran grocery stores for example.

The problem of course is I can't trust this administration to do jack shit and added to that, the government has a worse record of running these types of operations than the private sector. To throw more fuel to the fire, these austerity measures aren't being done in good faith after seeing the tax cut bill and spending budget. In other words, the poor/middle class are sacrificing benefits for the rich & corporations in order to have some semblance of fiscal responsibility.

In addition, a box of non perishables more than likely won't include fresh fruit and the like, and given the level of Republican corruption in government operations, we'll probably end up with trash food in those boxes anyway (sugary/unhealthy crap). After all, this is the party of 'no soda tax' and 'pizza sauce is a vegetable serving.'

 

[Tsing Tao]

The Trump proposal isn't the worst idea ever. I've always said if we're gonna foot the bill, then there should be strict restrictions to ensure only food stuffs are bought. I personally thought of government ran grocery stores for example.

The problem of course is I can't trust this administration to do jack shit and added to that, the government has a worse record of running these types of operations than the private sector. To throw more fuel to the fire, these austerity measures aren't being done in good faith after seeing the tax cut bill and spending budget. In other words, the poor/middle class are sacrificing benefits for the rich & corporations in order to have some semblance of fiscal responsibility.

In addition, a box of non perishables more than likely won't include fresh fruit and the like, and given the level of Republican corruption in government operations, we'll probably end up with trash food in those boxes anyway (sugary/unhealthy crap). After all, this is the party of 'no soda tax' and 'pizza sauce is a vegetable serving.'

Yes, the soda tax was such a success wherever it was implemented.

Most of those against the soda tax aren't against it because of the unhealthy aspect of soda, but because of the fact that it's completely ineffective and only hurts local retailers.

 

[Cuddles]

Yes, the soda tax was such a success wherever it was implemented.

Most of those against the soda tax aren't against it because of the unhealthy aspect of soda, but because of the fact that it's completely ineffective and only hurts local retailers.

You missed the point entirely

 

[viruscore1]

Yes... the Trump administration has come upon the solution to end Food Stamp fraud permanently...... do exactly what the program is named for -- deliver FOOD not money to recipients.

White House wants to deliver food to the poor, Blue Apron-style
http://www.wral.com/white-house-wants-to-deliver-food-to-the-poor-blue-apron-style/17334243/

Think of it as Blue Apron for food stamp recipients.

That's how Budget Director Mick Mulvaney described the Trump administration's proposal to replace nearly half of poor Americans' monthly cash benefits with a box of food. It would affect households that receive at least $90 a month in food stamps, or roughly 38 million people.

"USDA America's Harvest Box is a bold, innovative approach to providing nutritious food to people who need assistance feeding themselves and their families -- and all of it is homegrown by American farmers and producers," said Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue in a statement. "It maintains the same level of food value as SNAP [Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program] participants currently receive, provides states flexibility in administering the program, and is responsible to the taxpayers."

Part of the president's fiscal 2019 budget blueprint, the idea immediately sparked concerns and questions among consumer advocates and food retailers. They feared it would upend a much-needed benefit for more than 80% of those in the program.

Here's how it would work:

Instead of receiving all their food stamp funds, households would get a box of food that the government describes as nutritious and 100% grown and produced in the U.S. The so-called USDA America's Harvest Box would contain items such as shelf-stable milk, juice, grains, cereals, pasta, peanut butter, beans, canned meat, poultry or fish, and canned fruits and vegetables. The box would be valued at about half of the SNAP recipient's monthly benefit. The remainder of their benefits would be given to them on electronic benefit cards, as before.

The administration didn't detail exactly how families would receive the food boxes, saying states could distribute them through existing infrastructure, partnerships or directly to residences through delivery services.

The proposal would save nearly $130 billion over 10 years, as well as improve the nutritional value of the program and reduce the potential for fraud, according to the administration.

Consumer advocates, however, questioned whether the federal government could save that much money by purchasing and distributing food on its own. Also, they were concerned that families would not know what food they would get in advance nor have any choice regarding what they receive. Plus, it could be difficult for families to pick up the box, especially if they don't have a car.

"It's a risky scheme that threatens families' ability to put food on the table," said Stacy Dean, vice president for food assistance policy at the left-leaning Center on Budget and Policy Priorities.

How do they get the food now, it doesn't fall from the sky or magically appear? They can pickup prepared food boxes at grocery stores. Which may also assemble food boxes. In addition, the recipients can work 10 hours a week assist in the administration, assembly and distribution. At the same time learn a skill. Problem solved.