Emails are just like Benghazi

[WeToddDid2]

Again, if you can cite but a single example where there was a conviction based on illegal disclosure of retroactively classified information I'll start paying attention. Very little you've written is germane to the Clinton email controversy.

According to Hillary.

 

[der_kommissar]

I make no effort at all to cast myself in any particular way. You have inferred that I am an impartial and objective observer from what I have written. I am flattered. Thank you for the compliment.

I have "inferred" no such thing. You make an enormous effort to cast yourself in a particular way. It's called having an opinion.

It just so happens that 95% of your "opinions" would fall to the left of center.

 

[piezoe]

Again, forgot about "retroactively".

Excerpts below.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/insp...ment-to-clear-up-hillary-email-referral-flap/

Two government inspectors general involved in the Hillary Clinton email referral flap released a joint statement this afternoon to try and explain exactly what happened.

Here’s the full statement from I. Charles McCullough, III and Steve Linick:

The four emails, which have not been released through the State FOIA process, did not contain classification markings and/or dissemination controls. These emails were not retroactively classified by the State Department; rather these emails contained classified information when they were generated and, according to IC classification officials, that information remains classified today. This classified information should never have been transmitted via an unclassified personal system.

It is so nice to see you finally acknowledging facts. These emails should not have been transmitted to Hillary's server. The one who transmitted them, assuming they knew the information was classified, or excerpted from a classified document, and failed to mark it as such,and then transmitted it to a private server, is at fault. Certainly Hillary will not be prosecuted in this case. And that is my point. You can't make a successful prosecution out of a rule violation, there has to be a statute. In these cases there is not even so much as a rule violation on Hillary's part! Had the document been marked classified, as apparently in the opinion of the government bean counter, i.e. "classification officer", it should have been, and Hillary did not take appropriate action the moment she became aware that it was on her server, then she might bear some culpability. But under the circumstances she won't be culpable. At this point this investigation has become a purely political exercise. It is a waste of our hard earned taxpayer money.

 

[piezoe]

I have "inferred" no such thing. You make an enormous effort to cast yourself in a particular way. It's called having an opinion.

It just so happens that 95% of your "opinions" would fall to the left of center.

Those conspiracy theorists that frequent P&R have a quite warped idea of where the political center lies.

 

[piezoe]

I will use a hypothetical situation. Say some Secretary of State just had a meeting with the Saudis. The Saudis told the Secretary they were going to bomb Iran. Then that Secretary type it in an email on a personal server and sent it. That Secretary violated the law.

Is this germane?

 

[gwb-trading]

It is so nice to see you finally acknowledging facts. These emails should not have been transmitted to Hillary's server. The one who transmitted them, assuming they knew the information was classified, or excerpted from a classified document, and failed to mark it as such,and then transmitted it to a private server, is at fault. Certainly Hillary will not be prosecuted in this case. And that is my point. You can't make a successful prosecution out of a rule violation, there has to be a statute. In these cases there is not even so much as a rule violation on Hillary's part! Had the document been marked classified, as apparently in the opinion of the government bean counter, i.e. "classification officer", it should have been, and Hillary did not take appropriate action the moment she became aware that it was on her server, then she might bear some culpability. But under the circumstances she won't be culpable. At this point this investigation has become a purely political exercise. It is a waste of our hard earned taxpayer money.

At least this is Hillary's legal defense of the email situation which means that she is unlikely to be prosecuted because a trial is very unlikely to see a conviction.

Her staff members however who moved classified information from the classified email network and forwarded it to Hillary's private email account via the unclassified email network after removing classification markings are likely to be prosecuted. They are the fall people in this situation.

 

[der_kommissar]

Those conspiracy theorists that frequent P&R have a quite warped idea of where the political center lies.

"Conspiracy theories" = the new "race card".

But I digress...once again you frame yourself as a "centrist", always ashamed to identify as a true leftist.

 

[jem]

and when one of her staff rolls to escape a 20 year sentence... Hillary has almost no defense. They don't even have to blame hillary. she would easily be convicted on circumstantial evidence if a prosecutor wanted to bring this case.

but apparently the bigger one is the fact they will be getting her for selling out America as Secretary of State for donations to the Clinton foundation.

so on one hand she risked lives by broadcasting top secret info to whoever wanted to monitor her email system. on the same time she was a traitor.

and on top of that she is going to lose the next primary to a 74 year old socialist.
good candidate the dems are running.

Think about how luck obama was.
He got to run against her and then John McCain.

At least this is Hillary's legal defense of the email situation which means that she is unlikely to be prosecuted because a trial is very unlikely to see a conviction.

Her staff members however who moved classified information from the classified email network and forwarded it to Hillary's private email account via the unclassified email network after removing classification markings are likely to be prosecuted. They are the fall people in this situation.

 

[der_kommissar]

Is this germane?

Considering her conflicts of interest, it most certainly would be "germane".

 

[gwb-trading]

and when one of her staff rolls to escape a 20 year sentence... Hillary has almost no defense. They don't even have to blame hillary. she would easily be convicted on circumstantial evidence if a prosecutor wanted to bring this case.

but apparently the bigger one is the fact they will be getting her for selling out America as Secretary of State for donations to the Clinton foundation.

so on one hand she risked lives by broadcasting top secret info to whoever wanted to monitor her email system. on the same time she was a traitor.

and on top of that she is going to lose the next primary to a 74 year old socialist.
good candidate the dems are running.

Think about how luck obama was.
He got to run against her and then John McCain.

I am not a Hillary fan. However, she is not likely to be indicted due to the email classification issues.

Nor is any of the four staff members likely to roll. At most after all the legal arguments they would get a couple years. Probation is more likely. They are perfectly willing to be quiet for a few million from the Clinton Foundation in "consulting fees" once they get out of prison.