Election 2024 Foreplay

But you see, despite my attempts to help you, you also approach this as a binary event. ie. We either have troops or the ground there or we do not and if we do not, then Biden is not yet a wartime president. NO.

All of this is on a continuum. Biden is - at a minimum- a president who comes on tv every other week to justify new 200 million dollar packages to Ukraine and Israel along with language about wartime conditions that justify it. And mixed in with it language from all sorts of military and media types talking about American warships and planes being deployed to conflict zones, and thousands of troops either being deployed or being told that they are standby.

This raises the ire of many americans who want to know why we are protecting the borders of those countries and our people are sleeping on the streets. And it raises the anxiety of many as to what the risks are to going to war with a guy who cannot find his way off the stage. You - as a binary thinker- are able to dismiss it all by saying he is not a wartime president yet. No, he is very much being evaluated as such and based on his own assertions that we need to do unlimited spending due to risks of these wars. Meanwhile American diplomats and military types are threatening war with Iran directly to the Iranians.

Once you have seen Biden endure months/years of hostage holding as Carter had to, you will see what the toll looks like on Biden. You will have some smart arse analysis about how we were never technically at war with them and that will work for you.

The implications for the election will be enormous.


Too nuanced for you? Yes, of course. How could it be otherwise?

Yeah you can save the disingenuous argument that it is a choice between homeless Americans and support for Israel and Ukraine. You and your ilk don’t actually care about Americans experiencing hardships. And no it’s not too nuanced as it is just a giant lie from you. The lie doesnt fly outside of your ilk who are already members of the cult.

The hostages can become a big issue, for sure. And the Russians are almost certainly going to hang in for another year hoping for Trump to be elected so he will give them Ukraine and increase their power ~60%.

All presidents are challenged. Biden is t special he will have to meet the challenges of the day etc etc.
 
Yeah you can save the disingenuous argument that it is a choice between homeless Americans and support for Israel and Ukraine. You and your ilk don’t actually care about Americans experiencing hardships. And no it’s not too nuanced as it is just a giant lie from you. The lie doesnt fly outside of your ilk who are already members of the cult.

If you want to discredit me and kick me in the balls to try to make the issue go away then that would be pretty much all you have to work with.

Let's frame the issue without regard to me: There are millions of Americans- many who are democrats- who want to know why the expenses related to the illegals, and related to the wars come ahead of them, ahead of Maui, ahead of Palestine, Ohio. That issue is upon Biden to deal with. You have unlimited ways to dismiss it. And so does Joe. And unlimited reasons why his poll numbers are dropping. And, yes, I get that it is not THE ONLY ONE so that will cause your binary mind to dismiss it. We know that big numbers, anything above one, cause you to get dizzy and lose your way.
 
it’s all about 4 or 5 states a year and 2 weeks from now. The race does not get assessed from here but at the conventions.
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In can be assessed now as no incumbent ever with Bidens numbers a year before the election has ever won a 2nd term,never ever ever.
 
Biden losing the popular vote but winning the electoral college… @Tony Stark :(


From @UsualName when he didn't let hope for a candidate he liked cloud his judgement.




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Dr.West polling at 5.5%.Jill Stein got 1% in 2016,Ralph Nader got 2.7% in 2000.

Biden not winning a single RCP poll that includes West.

Most of Dr Wests votes will come from people like myself who voted for Biden in 2020.



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Usual Tard and I just had the ad nauseum discussion about "he cannot win so it is a nothinburger" issue versus my assertion that that is a binary approach and misses the point.

In fact it is damaging for a candidate who has historically low polling numbers to have other politicians and pop culture figures now running around "normalizing" discussions about Biden that have hitherto been kept at a manageable level.

Let the viewers decide.

UT might be right about everything, and I will be happy to just watch Biden's poll numbers continue to plummet as voters fail to understand that he is right. Biden's numbers tanked by 11 points in just the last month alone. Way to go Joe. The trend is not necessarily your friend here, but whatevah.


Bill Maher already boosting Dean Phillips' challenge to Biden: 'He's 54! Did I mention he's 54?'

"Real Time" host Bill Maher is quickly hyping Rep. Dean Phillips, D-Minn., who formally launched a primary challenge against President Biden earlier in the day.

"He's the new Mike Johnson. In other words the new guy I've never heard of in Congress," Maher began the conversation Friday night. "Dean Phillips, he's from Minnesota. He's Jewish. He's 54! Did I mention he's 54?"

"He loves Biden. He says exactly what I say. He did a great job, but don't do it again," Maher continued. "Family- self-made millionaire, the family's in the organic vodka business. Dean Phillips, I'm getting behind him for president of the United States. How about you?"


Democratic strategist and "The Five" co-host Jessica Tarlov wasn't nearly as on board with Phillips and Maher was, listing red flags including him having Lincoln Project co-founder Steve Schmidt as a campaign adviser, but Maher was not deterred.

"I love Dean Phillips because nobody knows who the f--- he is, and that's good!" Maher exclaimed. "You know what I know about him? He's 54 and he's got a ‘D’ next to his name. He's already got half the votes and he doesn't have any of the baggage of the other guys."


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...biden-hes-54-did-i-mention-hes-54/ar-AA1j0aXU
 
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