Election 2024 Foreplay

" to cancel student debt for as many borrowers as possible, as quickly as possible."

Gee, I wonder why. :rolleyes:

I mean lets be real... if I was 25 and had $50,000 in debt suddenly vanish... you can bet your ass I'd cast a "thank you" vote.
 
Well, things did get a little better for some today. What are we up to now with this---$154 Billion?
That'll buy a lot of votes Tree.

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Today, Biden-Harris Administration leaders will fan out across the country as President Biden announces his Administration’s new plans to cancel student debt for tens of millions of Americans. The plans, if implemented, would provide debt relief to over 30 million Americans when combined with actions the Biden-Harris Administration has already taken to cancel student debt over the past three years. While Republican elected officials try every which way to block millions of their own constituents from receiving student debt cancellation, President Biden has vowed to use every tool available to cancel student debt for as many borrowers as possible, as quickly as possible.
To an extent this is true. Some people will always struggle but are you struggling or do you know anyone struggling? Who doesn’t have a job, who can’t pay their bills, who is in foreclosure? Probably no one you know personally. And that will ring true for the vast majority of people who read this. Yet the mood is sour even though people are spending, profits are robust and jobs are plentiful.

Poll after poll shows people are confident in their personal financial situation but down on the general economic outlook. It’s an interesting time.

Earning your extra potato right on schedule like clockwork, Comrade.

You and your dem ilk do not exactly speak for the working class anymore. Your economics consists of just emphasizing that you and buddies are doing okay. This is why the working class has moved over to Trump.
 
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That'll buy a lot of votes Tree.

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That was his plan in round 1 too which the court rejected.

And this round will gain him another trip to the court (ten state's already plaintiffs) which will also be shot down.

And a result the pubs will use it as example of Joe's rebellion against the courts and outright defiance of the justice system- all while they are trying to let that be their weapon against Trump.

Joe needs to watch his flippant cavalier arse. He has outright bragged many times over that the court rejected his plan but "I found a way around it." The supreme court has lefties on it but Joe is really pushing the limits to think he can spit in their face and brag about outmaneuvering them. They are fully capable of handing him another defeat right when he needs it least. Let's see if they put a stay on it while it is pending for court review. That will be one of the small signs to look for.

Be careful dems. You are not all that smart.
 
That was his plan in round 1 too which the court rejected.

And this round will gain him another trip to the court (ten state's already plaintiffs) which will also be shot down.

And a result the pubs will use it as example of Joe's rebellion against the courts and outright defiance of the justice system- all while they are trying to let that be their weapon against Trump.

Joe needs to watch his flippant cavalier arse. He has outright bragged many times over that the court rejected his plan but "I found a way around it." The supreme court has lefties on it but Joe is really pushing the limits to think he can spit in their face and brag about outmaneuvering them. They are fully capable of handing him another defeat right when he needs it least. Let's see if they put a stay on it while it is pending for court review. That will be one of the small signs to look for.

Be careful dems. You are not all that smart.
Ya know the flip-side of that coin... putting it on hold might be even better for him.

Think about it. If that happens... it puts a sweet stick and carrot in front of everyone that has a student loan. It's like "Well if Trump gets in, no way we'll get our loans cancelled... so hell yeah... I'm voting for Joe. At least there'll still be a chance."

And yeah I know what you're gonna say... Joe won't keep the promise, and of course you're right, but 20 somethings don't think like that Tree.
 
Earning your extra potato right on schedule like clockwork, Comrade.

You and your dem ilk do not exactly speak for the working class anymore. Your economics consists of just emphasizing that you and buddies are doing okay. This is why the working class has moved over to Trump.

The bottom quartile of earners have seen the biggest gains in decades recently. Not only that union membership is actually increasing and public support of unions is increasing. You can say anything you want about Biden but he is a vocal supporter of unions.

It is true there is a shift in support of the working class to Trump. A lot of that has to do with identity politics though because most working class people support democrat policies.
 
Think about it. If that happens... it puts a sweet stick and carrot in front of everyone that has a student loan. It's like "Well if Trump gets in, no way we'll get our loans cancelled... so hell yeah... I'm voting for Joe. At least there'll still be a chance."

Well yeh, I get the dangling the bait "if you elect me" scam.

But if so, he is playing it wrong. He should wait until off in the fall right before the election. Where is he able to announce it but there is no time for it work through the courts.

Instead, there are months for the lower courts- or even an expedited trip up the S.C. to kaibosh it. Keep in mind that it was shot down last time, and this current plan of his is the same thing warmed over EXCEPT this time the lower court and the appeal court and the supreme court have the case law from the last decision and the district and appeals courts tend to take that seriously. That's kind of what being a lower court is all about.

Furthermore, there is the argument that it will actually hurt him if he is successful. Sure he will pick up dem votes but he will also lose a pantload amongst the working class (that the dems no longer own) who feel like they got nothing became a roofer or truck driver while those with degrees in intersexual basket-weaving write off a couple hundred thousand.

The right play here for Biden was to stay out of further school loan ratholes it but instead to move over to launching a massive housing stimulus for homebuyers and homebuilders. He will get there but he has shot too much of his powder on covid scams, infrastructure for poets schemes, benefits for illegals, etc. He has no national economic plan beyond "give away some sh@t this week, give away some sh@t next week, etc. etc. Probably the investment in chip manufacturing in the u.s. was an exception to all the pork and outright votebuying schemes.

Anyway, his campaign not mine. I just don't see the school loan thing as a winner for him. I think it is net lose/lose. Gonna make some people happy and also create massive landmine for some voters who already feel plenty ignored.
 
It is true there is a shift in support of the working class to Trump. A lot of that has to do with identity politics though because most working class people support democrat policies.

Yeh, well, I still support traditional democrat policies too. But the Dem Party left that planet decades ago. Now we have some recent leavers who have recent reasons.
 
Demtards, did you want to comment on this and tell us where the judge is going wrong? Yes we get that you will want to be geniuses and point out that the judge was appointed by Trump. Okay, but then what? Comment on her reasoning.

DOJ Prosecutors brought a motion to dismiss the gun charges against Hunter on the grounds that the "prosecution is vindictive."

To which the judge denied the motion and said the following:

Between the lines: Noreika also acknowledged the defense's suggestions that the Trump administration had involvement in bringing the case against him to take aim at him or his father.

  • "The problem with this argument is that the charging decision at issue was made during this administration — by Special Counsel Weiss — at a time when the head of the Executive Branch prosecuting Defendant is Defendant's father," Noreika wrote.
  • "Defendant's claim is effectively that his own father targeted him for being his son, a claim that is nonsensical under the facts here."

Judge refuses to toss out Hunter Biden's federal gun case

https://www.axios.com/2024/04/12/hunter-biden-gun-charges-dismissal
 
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Earning your extra potato right on schedule like clockwork, Comrade.

You and your dem ilk do not exactly speak for the working class anymore. Your economics consists of just emphasizing that you and buddies are doing okay. This is why the working class has moved over to Trump.
Tell me you don't think I'm @UsualName.... you quoted us both in your potato ration above.
 
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