Economic impact of possible attack on Iran

Quote from bbing:

I encourage everyone on this thread to research the history of
wahabissm. Enter this on a google search. It is impossible to
fully understand the "war-on-terror" without understanding the
history of this virulent form of islam. An overwhelming majority
of Saudi Arabian citizens subscribe to this hate-filled religous
belief. A major tenet of wahabissm is the death of all non-believers of wahabisst islam-including muslims of different
denominations. This sect of islam was first propigated by the
imam cleric wahabi in the seventeenth century-over three hundread years ago. To infer that we in the west are somehow
to blame for the islamic jihad against us is like blaming the jews
for the holocoust. In fact, the jihad against the west began over
three hundread years ago. Bear in mind also, this is not just a
jihad against the west exclusively-as wahabisst also seek to distroy Hindus, Shintos and practilly all other beliefs other than
wahabissm. This is truly a world war that will only get worse in
the comming years. I sincerely believe that our survival as a
people is clearly at stake. Once Jihadist obtain an A- bomb they
will surely use it on a western city. There have been recent fatwa's issued to this effect. Then what?


You hit the jihadist problem right dead center. Unfortunately we in the west fund the infinite wealth of wahabi sect by driving 10mpg Hummers. These wahabis use their unlimited wealth to fund radical madrassas and imams in impoverished third world nations.

Absolutely nothing will be done about it because the current elite in the dominant power of the west are also controlled by the source of the wahabi wealth.
 
Just like every great trade, what goes up must come down (evenutally).

I am a god loving citizen of this country but one day we will see our demise. It is only a matter of time. I compare our current siutation like a penny stock that is being naked shorted.

Eventually there will come a point where there are so many people betting against us that we will be in trouble. And there are many people that hate us that we cant even knwo of.

If you have something good or you are on top there are always people trying to take you down. I have had people tyry to do it to me my whole life. Whether it be in a great trade or you have just been successful in life, people in general are JEALOUS. Jealouly breeds hated. As a result, people hate to see us on TV making millions on some stupid TV show sipping champagne and watching some stupid show called "trading mommies" or "The Apprentice" while their kids are being bombed and killed because some person says they have wepons under their house while they only have dirt and carrots in their cellar. WOULD YOU BE PISSED IF IT WERE YOU IN THERI SHOES??? ASK YOURSELF THIS??? Alays put yoruself in other peoples shoes in life and you will be able to make better decisions.

I am a realist. Realists are objective in nature and problem solving is based on facts and not falacy. A realist can see that this war was real bad for us in terms of HOW WE ARE PERCEIVED by the world. It would have been much better for us to just come out and say that we dont like what they are doing to their citizens and then invade instead of going on TV AND MAKING COLIN POWELL tell people they have WMDs when now we have to retract that. I compare that like ENRON earnings. But, we dont care. Why, because we are greedy and we only care what is in front of us at this moment in time. Do I think we have to go into other countries now???? Yup!!! Why?? Because these other countries are trying even harder now to get us since this iraq thing.

I will fight til the end for this country but I am a realist and we are losing ground right now but most people fail to see it BECAUSE WE ARE MOSTLY CONCERNED ONLY WITH THE SHORT TERM, JUST LIKE WE ARE AS TRADERS. Plain and simple!!!!
 
Quote from Maxprofit$:

Let them make nukes, they won't use it anyway like any other countries beside the US never used it either. Game theory, you nuke someone, you get nuked after, so it's not worth it. As long as the missiles stays in the hands of the Iranian government.

Attacking Iran, or just sending elite troops to investigate, will only fuel the hatred toward US imperialism and create more terrorists. War in Iraq basicly gave new reasons to terrorist organisations that would otherwise be dead by now if we concentrated war only on Al-Quaeda and Afganistan. All they need is an excuse to wage war against the US. And Bush is handing it to them on a silver plate! No reasons, no war.

Nobody attacks Canada, there's no reasons to, we don't piss anybody off. How many terrosits attacks targeted on canadian troops in Afganistan do you hear about? NONE! We mainly lose our soldier because of equipment malfunction :p We are nice with afagans and play kockey with them and initiate them to the taste of maple syrup. Meanwile US occupation in Iraq is total chaos...

How many troops does canada have in afghanistan? As for your analysis that the iranian government is rational, and can be gamed, I would submit that your analysis is completely wrong. If you study the war that Iran fought with Iraq you'll realize that they don't care about losing a few million people to a nuke. They were willing to give children a copy of the koran in one hand, and affirmed that god was on there side, and then sent the children out across fields full of land mines to literally "clear the way".

As for the war in Iraq...well...it is a mess...but that's what war is. However, I firmly believe that one of the reasons that we have not seen an attack on american soil since 9/11 is because our enemy has its hands tied in Iraq and Afghanistan. Simply put...We are taking the war to them and they are unable to bring it back to us. And that is a brilliant strategy.
 
look, the whole nuclear scare is just to escalate the war and install puppet regimes into iran, syria, lebanon, libya....blah blah blah. go read their playbook...they wrote it all out in the 90's.

and they know they are going to need many more military personnel........anyone feel a draft in here???
 
Quote from Pumpanddump:

Just like every great trade, what goes up must come down (evenutally).

I am a god loving citizen of this country but one day we will see our demise. It is only a matter of time. I compare our current siutation like a penny stock that is being naked shorted.

Eventually there will come a point where there are so many people betting against us that we will be in trouble. And there are many people that hate us that we cant even knwo of.


Shorting the US and the American people has always been a bad bet. Perhaps you should consider covering your positions, and get bullish on this great nation of ours after all 20 million illegal immigrants can't be wrong:)
 
MAD does not apply here, I dont understand how this could be even taken into consideration when hypothesizing what the checks and balances would be if ...

One must admit that there is little if any stability of the mideast govts (sans Israel). That being said I would not feel comfortable relying on MAD to deter a nuclear detonation by a fanatic who has gained control of Iran.

How many of you believe that Saddam, or Bin Laden etc., if they had a nuke, would hesitate and think "you know this is wrong" and not push the button.

They have shown how they value life...they dont.

People have gained the most for their people w/o violence, Fredrick Douglas, Gahndi, MLK. It makes me wonder if theses fanatics care about the cause of their people, or do they just want to kill everyone. Scary
 
Quote from mschey:

... sent the children out across fields full of land mines to literally "clear the way".

Average age of US soldier in WW2 : 26
Average age of US soldier in Korea : 24
Average age of US soldier in Vietnam : 19

Given the willingness of the public to continually drop the threshold for "adult offender" status, there is no doubt at all that, if Vietnam had continued, 16 year olds would have been next in line.
 
Quote from gunslinger:

They have shown how they value life...they dont.

Neither did Stalin, and his scale of murder and oppression make Saddam look like the Tooth Fairy. How they value the lives of their own people is irrelevant to MAD: all the credible evidence points to both Saddam and the Mullahs in Iran valuing their own lives rather highly, which is all that is necessary for MAD to work.
 
Quote from Pumpanddump:

......... It would have been much better for us to just come out and say that we dont like what they are doing to their citizens and then invade instead of going on TV AND MAKING COLIN POWELL tell people they have WMDs when now we have to retract that. .........

"ok...we hate what you are doing to your people so we are going to come in and kill many more and also throw in a little torture just to make'm feel at home. what did we hate so much....his technique..we can do it better??? :confused: :confused: :confused:

you lost me on that one.
 
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