please re-think this.
Donald, This I Will Tell You
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One of the things that could have a monstrous impact on costs would be prescribing pharmacists as many other countries have! Should I buy a bullet proof vest? I think a lot of physicians like to hunt.
I can also wear it next time I go quail hunting with Dick Cheney, but I'll need head protection too.
I can also wear it next time I go quail hunting with Dick Cheney, but I'll need head protection too.
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"Obamacare" was actually not Obama's intended plan from the start, it was watered down and changed to appease Congress and special interest groups. It should be no surprise that you are reliving this exercise with Trump. The fact he said it would be easy reflects on his refusal to actually research anything about his new job before he got it.
How many runs at affordable care did the left take at it before it became reality? It wasn't done in 9 weeks.
The left media is coming around, or this another setup...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...88409e9b69b72b2551039/?utm_term=.a859123282bd
The left media is coming around, or this another setup...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...88409e9b69b72b2551039/?utm_term=.a859123282bd
They must of made a mistake naming "obamacare". Shifting the blame huh ...
Oh my God!, do you want to kill innocent women and children? Glaxo-Smith-Kline Ventolin you buy from Canada hasn't been approved by the FDA. Why do you want to kill people?? (I'm not sorry for the sarcasm. It is not aimed at you. It is aimed at the idiots in the FDA that tried to tell us that drugs from western Europe, the UK, or Canada were any less safe than drugs from U.S. pharmacies. What an insult to our intelligence that was. Who would believe that tripe?)
You proposed what was essentially the original Obama care bill with a few twists and wrinkles. That Bill was based on Romney care, which was based on a Heritage Foundation plan. One of the "innovations" in Obama care, as proposed, would have forced private insurers to compete with government buying and pricing power. It was "the public option". (Oh dear!, how socialist!) But every insurer in the country knew there was no way they could continue to buy sets of alligator luggage for their Boards at Christmas time and still compete with a public option, so that feature, the public option, had to be killed, come hell or high water.
The other thing you need in your plan, and this so far as I know was not in the original Obamacare Bill, is to eliminate the tie between access to healthcare and employment. Healthcare must be completely portable and have nothing whatsoever to do with employment. Employers want this. There must be be no more employer mandates. WE do need a mandate, however, that everyone must be covered one way or another. That's essential to holding down net costs. You have to average the costs of a twenty year old with those of an eighty year old to get to a reasonable net figure. As things are now, private insurers skim off profits from insuring the healthy; then they dump the sick and dying on medicaid and medicare. That's insane. But that's what we have done!
If we could send you to Washington, you could handle this for us, and we could move on the other things.
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Trump never had any intention to collude with vladimir putin to steal the election from hillary from the start. It was a watered down and changed plan that developed over time.
So how dare you claim that there was a trump/russia collusion. How hypocritical.
I didn't assess blame; if I did I would say the American public. Any time I suggest you look at working models in other countries you guys start attacking the ideas and throwing out irrelevant themes like what "the left" is doing. It's your healthcare system, enjoy it. I know Canada's works for me, it's not an issue in my life at all. If you think our system sucks, you are welcome to hold onto that myth.
For an example of stupidity on this site, I note the following post on here :
How this gets you better health care I have no idea. I've never expressed an opinion on trump/russia in my life, but I'm not sure that reality and facts matter to this "fhl" joker anways.
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Wow you are defensive. News flash! The Canadian system is near bankrupt
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/c...res-what-will-happen-when-interest-rates-rise
Your left government is giving away your tax dollars to poor immigrants. Look at bramgladesh just north west of Toronto for example. Aka Brampton long ago. Most Canadians can't even afford a house in major cities and need to move 100+ miles north of cities. I can go on but it'll burst your great white north myth, dream on and pull that toque on a little tighter. lol
Not Romney, not Heritage... not Baucus who Obama chose... but Obama himself sold us out.
Obama and the Sentat democrats sold us out. How many fricken times are you going to try and rewrite history Piezoe.
The option was also omitted from the president’s proposal, Principles for Health Reform, released 22 February 2010 prior to a bipartisan health care summit. Likewise, it was not present in the budget reconciliation bill passed by the House and Senate and signed into law by President Obama in March 2010.
http://content.healthaffairs.org/content/29/6/1117.full
Senate Democrats were engaged in a highly contentious debate throughout the fall of 2009, and the political life of the public option changed almost daily. The debate reached a critical impasse in November 2009, when Sen. Joseph Lieberman (I-CT), who usually caucuses with the Democrats, threatened to filibuster the Senate bill if it included a public option.
During this period, several alternatives were considered. One compromise proposal included a Medicare buy-in for people age fifty-five and older. However, both Senator Lieberman and Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-ME) opposed the Medicare buy-in, which evoked concerns similar to those raised about the public option. Sen. Kent Conrad (D-ND) proposed using nonprofit health care cooperatives to compete with for-profit plans, but this concept also sparked little enthusiasm.
Debate over the public option continued as additional proposals were made to narrow eligibility for the public option and to raise the rates paid to providers above Medicare levels. When those, too, failed to garner enough support, the public option was eliminated from the Senate bill.
Sen. Charles Schumer (D-NY) and Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-WV) made last-minute attempts to introduce amendments to include a public option as the bill was about to be voted on by the Senate Finance Committee. Those failed, and there was no public option in either the bill that emerged from that committee or the bill that passed the full Senate on 24 December 2009 (the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, HR 3590). The option was also omitted from the president’s proposal, Principles for Health Reform, released 22 February 2010 prior to a bipartisan health care summit. Likewise, it was not present in the budget reconciliation bill passed by the House and Senate and signed into law by President Obama in March 2010.
Obama and the Sentat democrats sold us out. How many fricken times are you going to try and rewrite history Piezoe.
The option was also omitted from the president’s proposal, Principles for Health Reform, released 22 February 2010 prior to a bipartisan health care summit. Likewise, it was not present in the budget reconciliation bill passed by the House and Senate and signed into law by President Obama in March 2010.
http://content.healthaffairs.org/content/29/6/1117.full
Senate Democrats were engaged in a highly contentious debate throughout the fall of 2009, and the political life of the public option changed almost daily. The debate reached a critical impasse in November 2009, when Sen. Joseph Lieberman (I-CT), who usually caucuses with the Democrats, threatened to filibuster the Senate bill if it included a public option.
During this period, several alternatives were considered. One compromise proposal included a Medicare buy-in for people age fifty-five and older. However, both Senator Lieberman and Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-ME) opposed the Medicare buy-in, which evoked concerns similar to those raised about the public option. Sen. Kent Conrad (D-ND) proposed using nonprofit health care cooperatives to compete with for-profit plans, but this concept also sparked little enthusiasm.
Debate over the public option continued as additional proposals were made to narrow eligibility for the public option and to raise the rates paid to providers above Medicare levels. When those, too, failed to garner enough support, the public option was eliminated from the Senate bill.
Sen. Charles Schumer (D-NY) and Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-WV) made last-minute attempts to introduce amendments to include a public option as the bill was about to be voted on by the Senate Finance Committee. Those failed, and there was no public option in either the bill that emerged from that committee or the bill that passed the full Senate on 24 December 2009 (the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, HR 3590). The option was also omitted from the president’s proposal, Principles for Health Reform, released 22 February 2010 prior to a bipartisan health care summit. Likewise, it was not present in the budget reconciliation bill passed by the House and Senate and signed into law by President Obama in March 2010.
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