Does immigration hurt the economy

Many people make an arguable statement that allowing immigration is causing Americans to lose their jobs. This statement may be true depending on a particular aspect of the economy. Have you ever sat down and analyzed the benefits the government and individual private companies get from immigrants? Immigration may one way or the other affect the economy in a minimal ways. In general, I as person believe immigration really helps the stability of the economy both in labor and in resources.
There is a notion that undocumented immigrants don’t pay State and Federal taxes .But do immigrants enjoy all the State and Federal benefits? Do undocumented immigrants get tax return? The answer is simply No! These are questions one needs to ask before blaming immigrants of not paying taxes. First, a majority of undocumented immigrants don’t have a social security number so they do not benefit from most of the privileges that a citizen or permanent resident will enjoy. They do not qualify for food stamps, employment benefits, retirement benefits, handicap benefits etc. They do use government properties such as the public library and recreation center etc. Even then I personally do not believe using these government properties can massively hurt the economy.
Moreover there is one aspect immigrants do to help the economy that many people do not realize. Immigrants have being defined as job takers. They do not just travel thousands of miles to come and work. They do create jobs and employ US citizens in their businesses. They buy houses and pay property taxes every year to the state. They buy cell phones and pay taxes every month on their bills. They borrow loans and pay a huge amount of interest. Immigrants one way or the other help the economy in many ways which are known to them alone. Even documented immigrants are obliged to pay money to renew or extend their visa. All this money also contributes to stability of the economy. The US government gets a lot of funds from the various US immigration offices in the world. I personally paid over a thousand dollars for a visa fee after I won the diversity program, or the American lottery. Where do you think all this money goes to? The government uses the money to help in stabilizing the economy.
Lastly, both undocumented and documented immigrants help small or local private companies in many ways. Many small businesses have low capital to pay their employers the minimum wages. All these small businesses depend solely on immigrants to operate. They pay these immigrants below the minimum wages because that’s what the company can afford. There are a lot of jobs in the US such as construction, janitorial, car washing, and farm work that are labeled for immigrants. They help in developing the country by cleaning and beautifying the environment. Many American citizens are not willing to take such jobs. Some of them think they don’t pay well and others feel they deserve a better job. Immigrants are willing to take those jobs rejected by many US citizens. There is a huge different between someone hurting the economy and someone complimenting the economy. Immigrants don’t hurt the economy. They rather compliment the economy
The US government is in the right direction trying to implement the immigration reform. I think this will help to reduce undocumented immigrant in the country. The reform will also waive the status of undocumented immigrants.
 
Illegal immigration clearly hurts the economy as a whole. The problem is that a few employers, eg agribusiness, food service, lawn care etc, benefit from having a large pool of cheap labor.

Juan, the hardworking guy who cuts your grass so your teenage son can concentrate on video games, probably isn't hurting the eoconomy too much. His eight kids are bankrupting the local school system however. Their many trips to the ER for routine medical service are bankrupting the health care system. His brother Julio, who belongs to MS13, and his crew members are bankrupting the prison system, not to mention eroding our quality of life.

Juan looks forward to bringing his parents, who are destitute and will need lots of medical care, here, as well as his five other siblings and their extended families. Most of them have no skills and will end up on various forms of welfare. None speak english. Two of his sisters are pregnant and are planning a trip here to have their babies. Can you say "anchor baby?"

Is this a great country or what?
 
California is the best example: It's overrun with Mexicans and the economy sucks. If somebody wants to argue that there is no cause and effect going on there, feel free.
 
I think what bankrupt more people in the USA is the banks. They rob the people of their 401K, they rob the people of equity in the house. You can try to blame "immigrants" but really how STUPID to blame them. Where is the money?
 
let me just state this...Public Education.

An illegal comes here and brings his kids(or has kids with another illegal) The taxpayer pays about $10k per year per kid to educate them.

$10k time 13 years of public education = $130,000 per kid


Average illegal alien pops out 3 kids and you are talking nearly $400k in just for ONE family. This does not count medical costs they use up, incarceration costs (because when you are illegal its harder to find work with makes it harder to get money which makes you more likely to commit crimes), and lets not forget the fact that many illegals are sending the money they make back to their home countries to support other relatives. (Estimates are around $25 billion per year) Over 20 years thats half a trillion dollars that is GONE from the American economy forever.

$25 billion dollars is enough to give 500,000 Americans a $50k per year job.

Its estimated that the GM bailout will cost taxpayers $12 billion. So basically every 6 months illegals are costing us the same as a GM bailout.

$25 billion would pay off all the debt from the City of Detroit, plus buy every resident a house.

So does illegal immigration hurt us? Yes, it does.
 
Quote from delali100:

"... The US government is in the right direction trying to implement the immigration reform. I think this will help to reduce undocumented immigrant in the country. The reform will also waive the status of undocumented immigrants.

HOGWASH!

After WWII, the government told all the illegals, "go home".. rounded them up and deported them...

Was making "job room" for GI's returning from war.

Same principles apply now.

America should VIGOROUSLY defend its borders just like Iran and N. Korea.

:mad:
 
Quote from Scataphagos:

HOGWASH!

After WWII, the government told all the illegals, "go home".. rounded them up and deported them...

Was making "job room" for GI's returning from war.

Same principles apply now.

America should VIGOROUSLY defend its borders just like Iran and N. Korea.

:mad:
+1 But, of course, no one is trying to break into N.K. or Iran except spies and errant hikers.
 
Quote from Scataphagos:

HOGWASH!

After WWII, the government told all the illegals, "go home".. rounded them up and deported them...

Was making "job room" for GI's returning from war.

Same principles apply now.

America should VIGOROUSLY defend its borders just like Iran and N. Korea.

:mad:

"In 2007, Mexicans stopped emigrating to the United States. The change was not very big at first, and so for a few years it seemed like it might be a blip. But it wasn’t. In 2000, 770,000 Mexicans had come across the Rio Grande, but by 2007 less than 300,000 did, and by 2010, even though violence in Mexico seemed ceaseless, there were fewer than 150,000 migrants. Some think that more Mexicans are now leaving the United States than are coming to it. “We’re never going to get back to the numbers we had in the late nineties,” says Wayne Cornelius, a political scientist at UC–San Diego who has spent the past 40 years studying this cross-border movement. A small part of this story is the increase in border protection, but the dominant engine has been the economic shifts on both sides of the border—it has become easier for poor Mexicans to improve their quality of life in Mexico and harder to do so in the United States. Because migrants from a particular Mexican village often settle in the same American place, they provide a fast conduit of economic information back home: There are no jobs in construction or housing. Don’t come. The Pew Hispanic Center has traced the migration patterns to economic performance in real time: a spike of migration during 1999 and 2000, at the height of the boom; a brief downturn in border crossing after the 2001 stock-market crash followed by a plateau; then the dramatic emptying out after the housing industry gave way in 2006. We think of the desire to be American as a form of idealism, and sometimes it is. But it also has something to do with economic growth. We are a nation of immigrants to the extent that we can make immigrants rich."

From "The Blip"
http://nymag.com/news/features/economic-growth-2013-7/
 
In the final analysis, it doesn't matter whether it helps or hurts the economy. Better to die free than become part of the Mexican empire.
 
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