Does anyone actually believe in God or are they just afraid...

[Trader666]

You have no idea what I do or don't take on faith, stupid.
The only ones around here insisting what certain scientists say confirms their assumptions are those like yourself, who don't actually have any real argument at all.

Says the STUpid ignoranus who knows nothing about science but who keeps belching out this speculation from his "god" in an attempt to confirm his STUpid assumptions:
Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing.

 

[Spike Trader]

Well . . . whats your argument ?

 

[bigarrow]

Well . . . whats your argument ?

Trader666 has no coherent thought or argument on this subject.

 

[murray t turtle]

They are the same argument and jem knows it.

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You maybe right;
for sure Genesis 1;1 is right. I learned to shoot an arrow as a youth

 

[jem]

Luckily for the readers... wikipedia... shows you to be a fraud again.
Hawking explains clearly that the fine tunings of our universe may be explained by a multiverse.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grand_Design_(book)


The book examines the history of scientific knowledge about the universe. It starts with the Ionian Greeks, who claimed that nature works by laws, and not by the will of the gods. It later presents the work of Nicolaus Copernicus, who advocated the concept that the Earth is not located in the center of the universe.[11]

The authors then describe the theory of quantum mechanics using, as an example, the probable movement of an electron around a room. The presentation has been described as easy to understand by some reviewers, but also as sometimes "impenetrable," by others.[8][11]

The central claim of the book is that the theory of quantum mechanics and the theory of relativity together help us understand how universes could have formed out of nothing.[11]

The authors write:

“ Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist. It is not necessary to invoke God to light the blue touch paper and set the universe going. ”
—Stephen Hawking and Leonard Mlodinow, The Grand Design, 2010[12]
The authors explain, in a manner consistent with M-theory, that as the Earth is only one of several planets in our solar system, and as our Milky Way galaxy is only one of many galaxies, the same may apply to our universe itself: that is, our universe may be one of a huge number of universes.[11]

The book concludes with the statement that only some universes of the multiple universes (or multiverse) support life forms. We, of course, are located in one of those universes. The laws of nature that are required for life forms to exist appear in some universes by pure chance, Hawking and Mlodinow explain (see Anthropic principle).[11]

No need, there is gravity. Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing.

That's what's "apparent to our current (non troll) understanding of science."

 

[Trader666]

Trader666 has no coherent thought or argument on this subject.

Let's see you back that up, mental midget.

A general rule of thumb is dont go to bed with a girl who's dick is bigger than yours.

Speaking of undersized, tinyarrow, get professional help so you can deal directly with your inadequacies instead of trying to do it on the internet where you only make a fool of yourself.

 

[jem]

Your statement denies, implicitly, the standard model of physics.
The constants of our universe are finely tuned for life.
What is your motivation for being such a lying fraud?

.....but "fine tunings" actually being fine tunings, is never defined or established or confirmed in cosmology and physics as science.
"Fine tuning" is only a phrase, a term, an interpretation in cosmology and physics for a set of observations that appear to be especially particular to each other, but as yet remain unexplained.

In religion, "Fine tuning" is an excuse to throw a deity at a specific group of yet undetermined extraordinary natural circumstances.




Which are thoroughly discredited debunked and rejected by the science they try to invade.




Except you can only insinuate both, as neither are science.

 

[bigarrow]

Let's see you back that up, .

Trader666 has no coherent thought or argument on this subject.

You proved you have no coherent thought or argument on this subject. Blather on Luke errr I mean 666. Hell, same thing you're both nitwits.

 

[Trader666]

You proved you have no coherent thought or argument on this subject. Blather on Luke errr I mean 666. Hell, same thing you're both nitwits.

No, you proved yet again you have no credibility and you're obsessed with Lucrum. Poor tinyarrow

 

[futurecurrents]

You proved you have no coherent thought or argument on this subject. Blather on Luke errr I mean 666. Hell, same thing you're both nitwits.

I suspect they are the same nitwit. There can't be TWO people out there that stupid