Do you gun law people also believe we should ban cars?

Lucrum · Apr 23, 2013

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I've never been opposed to background checks....

Despite being an obvious infringement of the 2nd amendment I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to them either. IF they worked, but they don't.

Tsing Tao · Apr 23, 2013

Quote from Lucrum:

Despite being an obvious infringement of the 2nd amendment I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to them either. IF they worked, but they don't.

I'm not sure I can agree. A background check isn't an infringement on rights anymore than a criminal background check is on a job applicant. You might be able to argue that denying a gun to an applicant based on the results of the check infringes on that individual's second amendment rights, but even that is shaky since - in the case of a convicted felon, for example - that individual has given up some of his rights as a result of his choice to commit a crime. Just like an incarcerated individual loses the right to vote, for example (or is supposed to).

Lucrum · Apr 23, 2013

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I'm not sure I can agree. A background check isn't an infringement on rights anymore than a criminal background check is on a job applicant. You might be able to argue that denying a gun to an applicant based on the results of the check infringes on that individual's second amendment rights, but even that is shaky since - in the case of a convicted felon, for example - that individual has given up some of his rights as a result of his choice to commit a crime. Just like an incarcerated individual loses the right to vote, for example (or is supposed to).

Point taken my good man. But they still don't work.

Spike Trader · Apr 23, 2013

I know of a guy who buys guns to sell on the black market. . . he also opposes back ground checks.

Tsing Tao · Apr 23, 2013

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Point taken my good man. But they still don't work.

Oh, not disputing the efficacy (or lack thereof). Like most laws, they are poorly written by politicians that don't understand the topic, and implemented by inept personnel.

Tsing Tao · Apr 23, 2013

Quote from Spike Trader:

I know of a guy who buys guns to sell on the black market. . . he also opposes back ground checks.

Just curious, but do you ever contribute anything to any discussion on this forum?

Lucrum · Apr 23, 2013

Quote from Tsing Tao:

Just curious, but do you ever contribute anything to any discussion on this forum?

He contributes tons of stupidity.
In fact he is stupidity personified.

Spike Trader · Apr 23, 2013

Quote from Tsing Tao:

Just curious, but do you ever contribute anything to any discussion on this forum?

I just did, what i said is a true story.What you ought to be doing is addressing that guys actions.

Lucrum · Apr 23, 2013

Quote from Spike Trader:

I just did, what i said is a true story.What you ought to be doing is addressing that guys actions.

What you ought to be doing is turning him into the BATF.

Spike Trader · Apr 23, 2013

Quote from Lucrum:

What you ought to be doing is turning him into the BATF.

I have a better idea , there should be background checks , in that way if any of the weapons he bought were used in crime,it could be traced back to him. He will soon stop his gunrunning , and there will be lesser crime , lesser workload for the BATF , and smaller government.

But you people keep on saying it won't work.