Do we have to pay income tax?

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So Rat, you wanna take the bet? Or are you scared too and need to make up the excuse that you're broke also?
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lmaooooooooooo..... well a bet would make it interesting. i like easy money!!!!!!!! but i don't trust filth like you... you lie about 9/11 and the iraq war... i would bet bear... but he is broke. (he is actually gullible enough to think you will do this)
 
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lmaooooooooooo..... well a bet would make it interesting. i like easy money!!!!!!!!
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We can put the money in an interest bearing trust account, with control of payment in someone else's hands...

Sound good?


but i don't trust filth like you... you lie about 9/11 and the iraq war... i would bet bear... but he is broke. (he is actually gullible enough to think you will do this)


Evasion and Displacement

In this strategy, the fundamental or essential issue is ignored by focusing on a "red herring" issue that may be quite similar to the real problem; but strikingly misses the real point.

"Affect Storm" or Exaggerated Emotional Responses

This is a hyperemotional response to anything that threatens the veneer of denial or that questions the motivations of the denier.

EXAMPLE: Take your pick among the usual ad hominem attacks leveled at anyone who has the audacity to disagree with the person in denial or to question his denial.
 
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We can put the money in an interest bearing trust account, with control of payment in someone else's hands...

Sound good?
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sorry.... you repulse me.. i don't want your money, it is filth. i'll take bear's money... i will even give him 4 to 1 odds. if he can go $50 i will put up $200. if he wants to do more.... let him name the amount... i will go up to $1000.

but honestly... i don't see him taking your side. deep down he knows you are a coward.

did you watch the video.... good huh?
 
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sorry....i'll take bear's money... i will even give him 4 to 1 odds. if he can go $50 i will put up $200. if he wants to do more.... let him name the amount... i will go up to $1000.

but honestly... i don't see him taking your side.
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Now what kind of delusional world do you live in to even suggest that he might take a bet that agrees with my statement that Cryer will lose the civil case? He "knows" that I'm wrong...

That's just plain crazy.....

You have fallen off the deep end, just like Irwin Schiff...

My belief is very well illustrated by the case of Irwin Schiff. Schiff originally sold investments and insurance and became unwittingly involved in a Ponzi scheme which resulted large financial losses for himself and his clients. He became depressed by his business failure and was diagnosed and treated for bipolar disorder. It was only following his business failure that Schiff began developing his theories about the tax laws and began writing his first book about taxes and the government. Schiff has faced the government in court many times, both in criminal prosecutions for his failure to file income tax returns and in civil actions to assess and collect taxes, and Schiff has lost every time. In pleadings filed in federal court, Schiff himself cited this history of failure, as well as the opinions of a lawyer, a psychiatrist, and a psychologist, as evidence that his actions were irrational and the result of a “mental disease or defect,” so that he is unable to act “willfully” within the meaning of the provisions of the Internal Revenue Code relating to tax fraud. “Defendant Irwin A. Schiff’s Opposition to United States’ Motion for Summary Judgment,” United States v. Schiff, No. CV-S-01-0895 (D.C. Nev. 1/21/2004).

So all Schiff needs is treatment? No, as the report of Schiff’s psychologist explains (quoted in the brief in opposition):

“For the most part, personality disorders do not respond to treatment and are believed to be characterological in nature. ... [Schiff’s] belief system is not under voluntary control. Individuals suffering from Delusional Disorder have little or no ability to alter their beliefs. ... In short, Mr. Schiff’s behavior is not rational. It is the product of a Delusional Personality Disorder that is not amenable to treatment and is unlikely to remit.”

The symptoms identified as evidence of Schiff’s mental disease are the same symptoms exhibited by many tax protesters, namely an obsession with the tax laws, an irrational belief in the correctness of their own position despite all evidence to the contrary, and a willingness to go to prison and suffer financial ruin rather than cooperate with the tax system. And, like Schiff, they will not learn from their mistakes, but will argue, and litigate, and go on “fighting” their entire lives, usually ruining their lives in the process. And there is very little than anyone can do about it.
 
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Now what kind of delusional world do you live in to even suggest that he might take a bet that agrees with my statement that Cryer will lose the civil case? He "knows" that I'm wrong...

That's just plain crazy.....
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are you that stupid? i am talking about you showing up you little freak. from the beginning i have been talking about you actually following through on the radio show... thats all i care about you dumbass.

i don't read your copy and paste... when you do that i skip over it. like i said.. i don't want your filthy money. this other bet is between me and bear... so but out pancake loser. he is probably too smart to take it... i don't blame him.... he knows you are a cowardly chickenhawk.
 
Ahhhh, ok i misunderstood.

Bear - take the bet. Scrape up all that you can. Take the 4-1 odds. Then you can bet THAT amount in the civil case dispute. That'll be my motivation to show up tomorrow - to take BOTH your money...

BTW Rat- you definitely wouldn't be taking any of my money if you were to take the civil case bet, so don't worry about that.

But since I'm sure you'll have some other lame excuse for the money bet, how about this - loser leaves ET forever. Of course this would be the 2nd time for you, so I really don't think you'd do it, but hey, MAYBE you'll have some self respect and follow through....

LOL - I copy and paste cuz it's not woth my time responding to your delusional behavior. Just like Schiff you are....
 
Hey Rat, just had another idea, why don't you donate any money you win from me to your favorite CT website?

That way you won't have to worry about having my filthy money in your hands....

Nahhhh, you won't do that either. You'll just have another excuse....
 
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Hey Rat, just had another idea, why don't you donate any money you win from me to your favorite CT website?

That way you won't have to worry about having my filthy money in your hands....

Nahhhh, you won't do that either. You'll just have another excuse....
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im not betting on the civil case you imbecile.... no telling what the corrupt courts will do. all i care about is taking little bears money when you wuss out of the radio debate. LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO

i trust him to pay up... but doubt he is stupid enough to bet on benedict haroki.
 
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im not betting on the civil case you imbecile.... no telling what the corrupt courts will do. all i care about is taking little bears money when you wuss out of the radio debate. LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO

i trust him to pay up... but doubt he is stupid enough to bet on benedict haroki.
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Corrupt courts?

Tell me this - if a judge were selfish, they would rule that the income tax is not legal, cuz then they wouldn't have to pay either. But they haven't. No judge EVER has. Why?

So Rat, why do you feel that it strenthens your argument when you insult me? It doesn't, you know, it just shows your own desperation cuz you know you're wrong.....

And LMAOOOOOOOO - that's a PERFECT example of an exaggerated emotional response. Maybe you should read some of my copy/paste posts, maybe you'll learn something about yourself....

Oh yeah -- BEAR !!! Take the bet .....
 
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