Do full-time forex traders exist or is it just make believe?

Quote from Ol' Yella:

Well, it's not that out of the ordinary.... Woody gets 32 ticks a day, Nodoji around 40, Hershey is upwards of 100, etc

Imagine what that comes out to if you trade 20,000 contracts at a time. :D

I feel like a loser now. :D
 
Quote from Xspurt:

achilles28, macattack... answers tomorrow as I have to earn a crust ;)

:D hmmm...now I'm thinking a bit. You inspired me. What timeframe(s) should i look at?
 
Quote from MillieJ:

So you guys are all trading manually or i can find you as well sending signals, like on zulutrade?

I tried it in 2012 as you probably remember from my posts in "Zulutrade" thread here on ET, but things didn't work as expected technically.

So I switched to NQ and direct management of OPM accounts via futures clearing firm. No technical issues ever since. :)
 
You guys just don't get it. The Dealers are your enemy--- this is from boston tech business plan for FX dealers---- it doesn't matter if its straight thru processing--what you erroneously think are ECN's or the traditional dealer model------

Wake up folks,


In the Financial Model section that follows, we’ll give more detail on these numbers.
 Closed Loop Dealing Desk - The second business model is to take more of the risk.
The customer buys from the broker and sells to the broker. If the customer makes
money, the broker loses money, and the contrary. Most small retail customers have no
experience and 95% of them WILL lose money. In this model, which is more like
gambling for the customer, most customers spend 95% of their deposits in 2-3 months.
This model is simpler, but riskier. Here, most customers act like gamblers, and your
model is to act as the “house”. If they start with a deposit of $10,000, because of betting
psychologymost end up losing 95% of that investment in 2-3 months. They take small
profits, and let losses run. Thus, this is a “non recurring” customer model, in that most
customers lose their cash, and do not come back with additional investments. Ongoing
customer acquisition is thus very important.
In this model, some of the more experienced or savvy customers will grow frustrated that
they are not dealing with Straight Through Processing. Segmenting these customers out
and dealing with them through a Straight Through Processing model is usually a good
idea. Below we discuss such hybrid models.
Estimated profit
from risk
Percentage lost over 1 year
-25% 25% 50% 75% 90%
Total number of
deposits
1,500,000 -$375,000 $375,000 $750,000 $1,125,000 $1,350,000
5,250,000 -$1,312,500 $1,312,500 $2,625,000 $3,937,500 $4,725,000
9,000,000 -$2,250,000 $2,250,000 $4,500,000 $6,750,000 $8,100,000
12,750,000 -$3,187,500 $3,187,500 $6,375,000 $9,562,500 $11,475,000
16,500,000 -$4,125,000 $4,125,000 $8,250,000 $12,375,000 $14,850,000
20,250,000 -$5,062,500 $5,062,500 $10,125,000 $15,187,500 $18,225,000
24,000,000 -$6,000,000 $6,000,000 $12,000,000 $18,000,000 $21,600,000
27,750,000 -$6,937,500 $6,937,500 $13,875,000 $20,812,500 $24,975,000
31,500,000 -$7,875,000 $7,875,000 $15,750,000 $23,625,000 $28,350,000
37,500,000 -$9,375,000 $9,375,000 $18,750,000 $28,125,000 $33,750,000START YOUR OWN BROKERAGE (SYOB) BUSINESS PLAN
©BOSTON TECHNOLOGIES WWW.BOSTONTECHNOLOGIES.COM PAGE 15
 Hybrid
Mod
Models
Send some customers to the liquidity providers and keep some in house
For all customers keep some trades in house and send some to the
liquidity providers
Send all trades of size X or larger to the liquidity provider
 
Quote from marketsurfer:

You guys just don't get it. The Dealers are your enemy--- this is from boston tech business plan for FX dealers---- it doesn't matter if its straight thru processing--what you erroneously think are ECN's or the traditional dealer model------

Including companies like IB? Do you think IB also trades against it's clients who trade forex?
 
Quote from cornix:

Including companies like IB? Do you think IB also trades against it's clients who trade forex?

Do they use the MT4 platform? The platform is designed to eliminate any advangtage you think you have--- I have the material from the dealers and the MT4 consultants---- in house platforms are likely the same or worse---- seriously, folks, you might as well be playing slot machines. surf
 
Quote from marketsurfer:

Do they use the MT4 platform? The platform is designed to eliminate any advangtage you think you have--- I have the material from the dealers and the MT4 consultants----

LOL... I don't know anyone among my buddy traders who uses MT4. Maybe just for some charting, but doubt about that even. :)

MT4 is hardly suitable for quick entry/exit/position management.
 
Quote from cornix:

LOL... I don't know anyone among my buddy traders who uses MT4. Maybe just for some charting, but doubt about that even. :)

MT4 is hardly suitable for quick entry/exit/position management.

Funny, its the most popular FX platform on earth. i guess if you are using reuters3000 and accessing the interbank market directly you are on a fair playing field--- however, my data only pertains to the MT4 platform. surf
 
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