Deutsche bank retail fx platform

Whilst I wouldn't open an account with DB retail - I think 2cents is right to suggest that at least their is now a credible bucketshop - some people are happy to pay extra for the security that comes with having their money parked in a bank like DB. They have the franchise (in the form of a prestigious name and credit rating), and they are charging a premium for it. To a swing trader (or someone that shoots for more than 50 pips a trade) 1 or 2 pips is not that drastic and they can sleep at night knowing that the chief executive ain't going to do a Refco on their money. How many retail fx brokers can you say that about?

Nevertheless their spreads ARE shite. Also, it remains to be seen how much of a bucketshop they will actually be in practice (re slippage, stop hunting and all of those practices). I for one hope that this initiates a bit of a shakeout in the bucketshop world.
 
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Whilst I wouldn't open an account with DB retail - I think 2cents is right to suggest that at least their is now a credible bucketshop - some people are happy to pay extra for the security that comes with having their money parked in a bank like DB. They have the franchise (in the form of a prestigious name and credit rating), and they are charging a premium for it. To a swing trader (or someone that shoots for more than 50 pips a trade) 1 or 2 pips is not that drastic and they can sleep at night knowing that the chief executive ain't going to do a Refco on their money. How many retail fx brokers can you say that about?

Nevertheless their spreads ARE shite. Also, it remains to be seen how much of a bucketshop they will actually be in practice (re slippage, stop hunting and all of those practices). I for one hope that this initiates a bit of a shakeout in the bucketshop world.

it is still modelled like a boiler..u need new laws and regulations not a supposed big name come into da game..i mean look at ib; db provides liq for ideal pro and yet they do whatever they wish to do with their quotes and apprently with costumers orders..forcin' buckets to hedge wud be already a first decent step, eliminatin' da first and foremost conflict of interest.
 
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it is still modelled like a boiler..u need new laws and regulations not a supposed big name come into da game..i mean look at ib; db provides liq for ideal pro and yet they do whatever they wish to do with their quotes and apprently with costumers orders..forcin' buckets to hedge wud be already a first decent step, eliminatin' da first and foremost conflict of interest.

What I'm saying is that their are people out there (rightly or wrongly) who would rather have their money in DB as oppossed to IB, and they will happily pay for that. Perhaps the risks to their funds are virtually the same in both examples, and DB is exploiting that, but then other banks will follow (because charging 3 pips on the Euro/ 4 Yen - you can bet it will be a big money earner), will bring in more competition from other banks, and improve the whole status quo - long term. I gather from your posts on this that you say "shame on them (DB) using their name to prey on innocent investors" (I have the same thoughts) - well thats just they way things go sometimes - retail forex is still in it's infancy.

After the Refco debacle, consumers want to perceive security, so in the long run that may yet bring further funds into the markets.
 
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More not-so-good news:

Just received a reply from dbFX: credit interest is not paid on client funds...

Can it be a sensible idea to make a free loan to DB to trade FX? :)

One of the examples on their website is explaining the carry trade!
 
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What I'm saying is that there are people out there (rightly or wrongly) who would rather have their money in DB as oppossed to IB, and they will happily pay for that. Perhaps the risks to their funds are virtually the same in both examples, and DB is exploiting that, but then other banks will follow (because charging 3 pips on the Euro/ 4 Yen - you can bet it will be a big money earner), will bring in more competition from other banks, and improve the whole status quo - long term.
Other banks have been there for years- and offer much better conditions than DBFX.
 
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One of the examples on their website is explaining the carry trade!

For a leveraged positive carry position, interest is paid upon rollover if the margin deposit is 2% or more, although the bid/offer rates used are not disclosed on dbFX's web site.

Clients' own funds do not earn interest.
 
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not bad at all for a top-tier bank... not long ago they were still charging their retail custies around 100 pips a side and Citi still does... DB retail spreads are where retail brokers were not even 2 years ago... and only 1-2 pips away from today's competition... difference being they are a top-tier bank, rather unlikely to do a refco... am sure they'll attract tons of accts and quickly build up some fairly decent volume! and that UBS, Citi etc now have no choice but to follow in their steps... that will also squeeze a lot of dodgy bucket-shop type players out of the market... not a bad thing...


Agree, it is a competition and more bigger names will follow. More names like that, better it is.
 
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Other banks have been there for years- and offer much better conditions than DBFX.
for years, which ones? thats the 1st top-tier bank i am aware of that is lowering its min. deposit to $25K and offering up to 100x leverage... not a segment they had been targeting directly until now, not to my knowledge at least... but am happy to be wrong...
 
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Other banks have been there for years- and offer much better conditions than DBFX.

Who? Danish Banks:eek: ?? On the retail level they arn't too many. DB, Citi, UBS, RBS, Barcap, HSBC et al. are all for the well healed ($1 mill. acc. + minimum monthly volume requirements). Try go open an account with $250 000 and these banks will politely show you the door.
 
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