About half of one percent is Delta now, I just heard on the news.
DeSantis for the win
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About half of one percent is Delta now, I just heard on the news.
If Florida wants to prove the case that other variants besides Omicron exists in people showing up for monoclonal antibody treatment then FLORIDA CAN TEST THE PEOPLE FOR VARIANT TYPE and prove their case to the federal government. It is very easy to do.
Otherwise we will simply have to go with what all the rest of the data is showing that over 99% of the cases in the U.S. Southeastern states are Omicron.
Here's a hint of what a positive Omicron sample looks like from another state...
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So you've stated that Florida provides no testing data on variants.
Then you said this:
and IPatient said this:
So can I ask how you have this data if variant testing is not being done?
GWB's favorite Florida source: FloridaPolitics.com
Ron DeSantis is right to be pissed about Joe Biden administration’s abrupt monoclonal reversal
That's especially the case since the feds also aren't distributing MATs shown to be more effective in treating omicron. Mr. President, respectfully, you are wrong about cutting off monoclonal antibody treatments to Florida.
Before I go on, I guess it needs to be said that I am vaxxed and boosted and I wear a mask 98% of the time in public settings. I also encourage everyone to get vaxxed, get boosted, and take steps to protect yourself and others.
Now that that is off my chest, I also want to say that Gov. Ron DeSantis is right to be pissed about the sudden change of heart from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.
Here’s what happened over the last 24 hours.
For months, the feds have been sending down monoclonal antibody treatment kits (MATs) and these have been primarily REGEN-COV (made by Regeneron), bamlanivimab and sotrovimab. These treatments have been found to be effective in lessening the severity and duration of sickness caused by COVID-19 and the COVID-19 variants.
Well, sort of.
If you have omicron, the above have proven to not be all that helpful, and the suggestion has been for those who have omicron to forgo that treatment. The sort of good news is that, for almost everyone, omicron doesn’t kill you.
But here’s the rub.
When we get tested — and you must show a positive COVID-19 test in order to receive MAT — without an extra lab test, we just can’t know what variant of COVID-19 has taken up residence in your body. So, if 80% of those with COVID-19 have omicron, then it is kind of wasted on them. But as there are little to no side effects, it was felt that because a certain percentage were still catching the more-deadly delta variant, the treatment was well worth it.
So, we pressed onward and have been giving everyone who asked (and within the limits of available supplies) the existing crop of MATs.
Until Tuesday.
Without warning, the FDA yanked approval, and mid-stride the state was forced to shut down monoclonal treatment statewide. (I don’t want to hear about the prior tests. On Monday, they were sending them and then on Tuesday they simply said, “Nope.”)
In my not-so-humble opinion, this is total BS and frankly, DeSantis is right to call out the FDA — and more pointedly, the Biden administration — for this 11th-hour shutdown without any real warning and especially since they are also not distributing the types of MATs shown to be more effective in treating omicron.
Anecdotally, I know several people who tested positive for omicron, immediately received Regeneron, and within 24 hours were feeling better.
So there you have it! For those of you who said I am biased against the Governor, this is me standing up and shouting, “DeSantis is correct and Biden is wrong for taking away — without warning — this treatment option.”
For me, this isn’t about whether to vax or not to vax, to wear a mask or not, this is about offering a lifeline to those who are sick — irrespective of how they got sick — and putting their care first. What the FDA has done is ham-handed, wrong and cruel.
Ron DeSantis is right to be pissed about Joe Biden administration’s abrupt monoclonal reversal
That's especially the case since the feds also aren't distributing MATs shown to be more effective in treating omicron. Mr. President, respectfully, you are wrong about cutting off monoclonal antibody treatments to Florida.
Before I go on, I guess it needs to be said that I am vaxxed and boosted and I wear a mask 98% of the time in public settings. I also encourage everyone to get vaxxed, get boosted, and take steps to protect yourself and others.
Now that that is off my chest, I also want to say that Gov. Ron DeSantis is right to be pissed about the sudden change of heart from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.
Here’s what happened over the last 24 hours.
For months, the feds have been sending down monoclonal antibody treatment kits (MATs) and these have been primarily REGEN-COV (made by Regeneron), bamlanivimab and sotrovimab. These treatments have been found to be effective in lessening the severity and duration of sickness caused by COVID-19 and the COVID-19 variants.
Well, sort of.
If you have omicron, the above have proven to not be all that helpful, and the suggestion has been for those who have omicron to forgo that treatment. The sort of good news is that, for almost everyone, omicron doesn’t kill you.
But here’s the rub.
When we get tested — and you must show a positive COVID-19 test in order to receive MAT — without an extra lab test, we just can’t know what variant of COVID-19 has taken up residence in your body. So, if 80% of those with COVID-19 have omicron, then it is kind of wasted on them. But as there are little to no side effects, it was felt that because a certain percentage were still catching the more-deadly delta variant, the treatment was well worth it.
So, we pressed onward and have been giving everyone who asked (and within the limits of available supplies) the existing crop of MATs.
Until Tuesday.
Without warning, the FDA yanked approval, and mid-stride the state was forced to shut down monoclonal treatment statewide. (I don’t want to hear about the prior tests. On Monday, they were sending them and then on Tuesday they simply said, “Nope.”)
In my not-so-humble opinion, this is total BS and frankly, DeSantis is right to call out the FDA — and more pointedly, the Biden administration — for this 11th-hour shutdown without any real warning and especially since they are also not distributing the types of MATs shown to be more effective in treating omicron.
Anecdotally, I know several people who tested positive for omicron, immediately received Regeneron, and within 24 hours were feeling better.
So there you have it! For those of you who said I am biased against the Governor, this is me standing up and shouting, “DeSantis is correct and Biden is wrong for taking away — without warning — this treatment option.”
For me, this isn’t about whether to vax or not to vax, to wear a mask or not, this is about offering a lifeline to those who are sick — irrespective of how they got sick — and putting their care first. What the FDA has done is ham-handed, wrong and cruel.
As I stated before -- -multiple times along with associated articles --- the state of Florida does not fund, perform, support, or report on Covid variant testing. The Covid variant level testing in Florida is performed by private testing labs which sample a percentage of positive Covid tests performed in Florida. Sadly this rate of sampling is under 1% in Florida because the state does not support it. In North Carolina our rate of positive sample testing for variant is between 5% to 10% thanks to the state supporting it.
Just how many times do I need to explain the basics of sampling positive Covid tests for variants and the situation in Florida to you?
Now let's carefully read the statement from Regeneron on why it's monomcloanl antibody treatment should not be used.
“The original REGEN-COV antibody cocktail has been administered to millions of people, and we are extremely proud of the critical role this medicine has played during the pandemic. However, it does not work against #Omicron in lab tests, which tells us that unfortunately it is also not going to work in people infected with this variant,” a Regeneron spokesperson said. “According to the CDC, over 99% of COVID-19 cases in the U.S. are now caused by the Omicron variant, and thus we believe the FDA’s decision to amend the Emergency Use Authorization was appropriate at this time.”
You should note that both manufacturers have stated their monoclonal antibody treatments should not be used since they are not effective against Omicron.
I haven't looked at what Biden's order says because well, monoclonal's lol who cares. Is the prohibition contingent on a variant test? I mean, it's ridiculous we're at the stage were peeps will take a shittier course of action but may still prove useful for the few idiots contracting delta/alpha or those w/breakthrough cases (though i doubt there's any of those left for alpha/delta).If Florida wants to prove the case that other variants besides Omicron exists in people showing up for monoclonal antibody treatment then FLORIDA CAN TEST THE PEOPLE FOR VARIANT TYPE and prove their case to the federal government. It is very easy to do.
Otherwise we will simply have to go with what all the rest of the data is showing that over 99% of the cases in the U.S. Southeastern states are Omicron.
Here's a hint of what a positive Omicron sample looks like from another state...