I'm not here to point out numbers that are or are not being falsified. I'm here to point out the disparate difference between the media narrative and reality.
DeSantis for the win
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I'm not here to point out numbers that are or are not being falsified. I'm here to point out the disparate difference between the media narrative and reality.
Certainly, but common sense would now dictate that numbers are likely being falsified.
Falsified assumes intent. I'm not sure I can say that. Flawed, perhaps.
104 out of 104 can't be flawed though. Don't you wonder why the "spikes" are occurring largely now in states with Repub gubners?
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104 out of 104 IS flawed. It doesn't have to be nefarious to say "We are really backlogged at this point and we need to let the people who ARE positive know about it right away. The negatives can wait a bit..."
That philosophy is concern, not nefarious.
I take it that this is what "winning" looks like to DeSantis. Record cases, ICUs running out of capacity and rising deaths.
Just because a particular lab shows a 100% positive results does not mean that anything nefarious going on (to use your term). There are different types of labs involved here. A lab located in a hospital where they only test admitted patients that are displaying COVID-19 symptoms are likely to have results near or at 100% positive. A drive through location offering free tests is likely to have results in the 3% to 20% positive range. A government health department doing contact tracing or a lab focused on pre-screening for elective surgery probably has results in the 1% to 3% positive range. There needs to be a better understanding of the type and association of a lab doing tests to make any observations about their positive rates.
I have referenced the daily Florida Health reports in pdf format on the Florida DOH website multiple times -- to ask the question - "Why does the information posted on the Florida COVID-19 portal disagree with the daily Florida reports?" The media has asked this question for at least two months as well. So far the state of Florida has no provide a reasonable explanation of discrepancies. One can possibly understand the information in the recent few days not being sync'ed up but data over two weeks old should be aligned.
It's highly likely now that numbers are being falsified.
I guess DeSantis doesn't want any help from other states in fighting the coronavirus...
DeSantis downplayed coronavirus help from New York after Florida health department praised it
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/12/poli...da-new-york-coroanvirus-remdesivir/index.html
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis publicly downplayed New York's role in providing his state with shipments of an antiviral drug to help combat the coronavirus pandemic after a staffer in The Sunshine State's health department had privately praised the assistance, CNN has learned.
Speaking to reporters last Thursday, DeSantis pointedly denied that New York was helping his state's Covid-19 response, stating, "They're not helping us."
"I think that someone reached out to our office about ventilators -- we got 6,000 just sitting idle, so we don't need it," the governor added. "We are working with the federal government on some of the Remdesivir."
But a set of emails first reported by Politco and later reviewed by CNN shows New York's offer to send remdesivir to Florida had been well received before DeSantis dismissed the state's role in securing shipments of the drug.
A staffer in New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo's office had sent an email to a staffer in DeSantis' on Wednesday with the subject "Florida need Remdesivir?"
That message was forwarded to a staffer at the Florida Department of Health who replied, "Any assistance you are able to provide is very much appreciated."
"Please do not hesitate to reach out if you need any additional information," the person said.
Cuomo touted the assistance in a statement Friday, saying New York "will deploy Remdesivir to help Florida care for patients as it waits for further supply from the federal government."
"We will stand by our fellow Americans every step of the way as our nation fights COVID-19 together."
DeSantis, however, did not mention Cuomo during a press conference Saturday, praising instead Vice President Mike Pence and Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar for their help in securing the remdesivir for Florida.
A DeSantis spokesperson, Helen Ferre, told CNN Sunday, "It is not unusual for state health departments to communicate amongst each other, especially during a pandemic. New York reached out to Florida and the Department of Health responded appropriately."
Florida has been seeing a dramatic uptick in cases in recent weeks. The state reported 15,299 new Covid-19 cases on Sunday, the highest number of new cases reported in a single day by any state since the pandemic began. The test positivity rate in Florida currently stands at 19.60%, according to Johns Hopkins University.
In the past weeks, the state broke multiple records of single-day highs in new cases and reported another 10,360 new infections Saturday. Around 40 hospitals across the state have no ICU beds available and more than 7,000 patients are hospitalized statewide with the virus, state data showed Saturday.
Remdesivir, the only drug known to work against Covid-19, has been in high demand in recent weeks as the pandemic has raged on.
Last month, the US Food and Drug Administration gave emergency authorization for the drug, an intravenous antiviral medication studied to treat Ebola but now used on hospitalized Covid-19 patients. While not a blockbuster drug, a study published in The New England Journal of Medicine shows it shaves four days off a hospital stay.
DeSantis downplayed coronavirus help from New York after Florida health department praised it
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/12/poli...da-new-york-coroanvirus-remdesivir/index.html
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis publicly downplayed New York's role in providing his state with shipments of an antiviral drug to help combat the coronavirus pandemic after a staffer in The Sunshine State's health department had privately praised the assistance, CNN has learned.
Speaking to reporters last Thursday, DeSantis pointedly denied that New York was helping his state's Covid-19 response, stating, "They're not helping us."
"I think that someone reached out to our office about ventilators -- we got 6,000 just sitting idle, so we don't need it," the governor added. "We are working with the federal government on some of the Remdesivir."
But a set of emails first reported by Politco and later reviewed by CNN shows New York's offer to send remdesivir to Florida had been well received before DeSantis dismissed the state's role in securing shipments of the drug.
A staffer in New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo's office had sent an email to a staffer in DeSantis' on Wednesday with the subject "Florida need Remdesivir?"
That message was forwarded to a staffer at the Florida Department of Health who replied, "Any assistance you are able to provide is very much appreciated."
"Please do not hesitate to reach out if you need any additional information," the person said.
Cuomo touted the assistance in a statement Friday, saying New York "will deploy Remdesivir to help Florida care for patients as it waits for further supply from the federal government."
"We will stand by our fellow Americans every step of the way as our nation fights COVID-19 together."
DeSantis, however, did not mention Cuomo during a press conference Saturday, praising instead Vice President Mike Pence and Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar for their help in securing the remdesivir for Florida.
A DeSantis spokesperson, Helen Ferre, told CNN Sunday, "It is not unusual for state health departments to communicate amongst each other, especially during a pandemic. New York reached out to Florida and the Department of Health responded appropriately."
Florida has been seeing a dramatic uptick in cases in recent weeks. The state reported 15,299 new Covid-19 cases on Sunday, the highest number of new cases reported in a single day by any state since the pandemic began. The test positivity rate in Florida currently stands at 19.60%, according to Johns Hopkins University.
In the past weeks, the state broke multiple records of single-day highs in new cases and reported another 10,360 new infections Saturday. Around 40 hospitals across the state have no ICU beds available and more than 7,000 patients are hospitalized statewide with the virus, state data showed Saturday.
Remdesivir, the only drug known to work against Covid-19, has been in high demand in recent weeks as the pandemic has raged on.
Last month, the US Food and Drug Administration gave emergency authorization for the drug, an intravenous antiviral medication studied to treat Ebola but now used on hospitalized Covid-19 patients. While not a blockbuster drug, a study published in The New England Journal of Medicine shows it shaves four days off a hospital stay.
I didn't say it was nefarious. I specifically said it probably wasn't. And I see you returned to the same, stupid "DeSantis" and "manipulation" narrative, and don't want to talk about your comments on all the deaths you claimed occurred on the one day, and all of your articles trumpeting it.
You don't want to discuss the virus, you just want to tout your stupid "DeSantis is at fault for everything" narrative. You're not interested in being correct. Just interested in pushing the same comment day and day out. I provide data, you provide articles spamming the same shit. I do research, you pull crap off your auto ad search.
Did you know that the big spike in the SE part of Florida (Miami) is due, in large part, to things like illegal raves and clubs? The police are running themselves crazy trying to shut these things down every single night. I know because I know cops there. Is DeSantis at fault for this?
Jackass.