I understand that the US does things sub-optimally, and yes Trump is dumb. But Brasil has about the same population and half the cases. Something doesn't add up even adjusting for US stupidity.
DeSantis for the win
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I understand that the US does things sub-optimally, and yes Trump is dumb. But Brasil has about the same population and half the cases. Something doesn't add up even adjusting for US stupidity.
You'll have that in order to get through.
Even the hospitalizations data doesn't look all that bad. I posted yesterday Harris county as an example - most of the ICU utilization is non-covid.
It's pretty bad, that rate of change is not sustainable for very long. I do believe we have gotten much better treating it, but when you run out of beds that doesn't matter.
I don't think the rate of change continues at that pace. Lets hope I am right.
It is important to understand what the beds are used and in what manner. If a good portion of these beds are being used because, after months of being locked down, hospitals restarted elective surgery, then that's one thing. If Covid patients are being put in ICU beds simply because they are being isolated there as to not contaminate the rest of the population but aren't truly in need of ICU treatment (as was happening in Miami Dade) then that's also something to consider.
Exactly right...
Our shutdown was designed to shift the virus exposure out for a few months.
It was never designed to extinguish the virus.
Morons in the press and ET were touting exit strategies which included around goals which could never be achieved with what Fauci recently called a 50 percent shutdown.
Fauci was was always warning of a second wave... because he knew the shutdown was not going to make the virus go way.
Our politicians were morons. Our press was not demanding data and science and tons of govt supporting morons were cheering them on here on ET and in social media.
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- There were only 2 basic models to choose from back then and going forward.
the equivalent of a 97 percent shutdown per Fauci's explanation last week...
or
lockdown borders - protect the high risk.... allow the low risk groups out
and test and trace clusters with limited lockdowns and transparent data so the public trust is restored.
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Unfortunately here in CA and most of the US choose a model designed to shift the virus exposure out in time... and then slowly it morphed into stupid thinking... morons thought we could control of the virus with a 50 percent shutdown...
Our model was just absolute stupidity after about 3 weeks.
the only hopes with our model... were long term hopes... independent of govt lockdowns... .
Vaccine, therapy, natural virus burnout or very long term herd immunity because our strategy would make that a very very slow process.
Our shutdown was designed to shift the virus exposure out for a few months.
It was never designed to extinguish the virus.
Morons in the press and ET were touting exit strategies which included around goals which could never be achieved with what Fauci recently called a 50 percent shutdown.
Fauci was was always warning of a second wave... because he knew the shutdown was not going to make the virus go way.
Our politicians were morons. Our press was not demanding data and science and tons of govt supporting morons were cheering them on here on ET and in social media.
----
- There were only 2 basic models to choose from back then and going forward.
the equivalent of a 97 percent shutdown per Fauci's explanation last week...
or
lockdown borders - protect the high risk.... allow the low risk groups out
and test and trace clusters with limited lockdowns and transparent data so the public trust is restored.
===
Unfortunately here in CA and most of the US choose a model designed to shift the virus exposure out in time... and then slowly it morphed into stupid thinking... morons thought we could control of the virus with a 50 percent shutdown...
Our model was just absolute stupidity after about 3 weeks.
the only hopes with our model... were long term hopes... independent of govt lockdowns... .
Vaccine, therapy, natural virus burnout or very long term herd immunity because our strategy would make that a very very slow process.
I'd just like to bring this up - I don't know how pervasive and to what extent it is out there, but I can imagine it is quite substantial. I was talking with a friend of mine who is a child psychologist at lunch. He says he's never been busier. Kids with anxiety issues and parents who've medicated them for their anxiety issues are at levels he's never seen before. They're openly weeping in his office about the crisis - some silly things like missing proms and graduation, some scared to death about dying from COVID. All they eat and breathe all day long is social media and their parents who are breathing the same.
We have to be breeding a whole generation of kids who are going to be a total mess and anti-social, medicated lunatics because of this crap.
We have to be breeding a whole generation of kids who are going to be a total mess and anti-social, medicated lunatics because of this crap.